Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
17-07-2013, 10:25
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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No! just a woman with power, and a man who didn't like being told what to do especially from a woman!  |
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17-07-2013, 10:44
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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You may find this info from the NUM useful...
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.Between the years 1957 and 1963, no less than 264 collieries were closed, while the number of miners fell by nearly 30 per cent. During this six-year period, Scotland lost 39 per cent of its pits, while 30 per cent of those in South Wales, Northumberland and Durham were wiped out.
Throughout the 1060s, with a Labour Government in office from 1964, the pit closure programme accelerated; it decimated the industry. During this period, nearly 300 more pits were closed, and the total workforce slumped from over 750,000 in the late 1950s down to 320,000 by 1968
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http://num.org.uk/History-NumHistory...-industry.html
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17-07-2013, 11:10
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
If the coal could be used at a very high efficiency with no pollution then yes.
If the coal could be produced at a much lower overall cost than other sources then yes.
If people actually wanted the very hard life of a miner then yes.
If we had fears that we could no longer source our fuel needs from abroad then yes.
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17-07-2013, 11:15
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
Opening the coal mines won't address the problem of future power shortages and blackouts.
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17-07-2013, 11:47
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
Simple economics.
If there's money in it, it will happen.
Anything is possible with the right incentive.
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17-07-2013, 12:01
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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Simple economics.
If there's money in it, it will happen.
Anything is possible with the right incentive.
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True! 
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17-07-2013, 14:07
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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I do care about the environment, very much so, but there is years and years of coal waiting to be mined, i think it cost more to import the coal from Germany our own countries people are looking for work, work they cannot find, i am sure the reopening of the mines would benefit everyone in this country, i am sure it would create profit, it would create jobs, it would get people back into work, paying into the tax system, and bring communities together again just my belief  |
They can't be reopened, when the mines were allowed to flood the seams of coal will have been lost due to mixing with shale.
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17-07-2013, 14:15
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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It would create jobs for people  |
However it will not be jobs for uk people, it will be low paid slave labor for anyone from the eastern block of country's.
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17-07-2013, 16:39
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
While I wouldn't agree that they had to be shut in the first place as they were only thinking bottom line and didn't consider how it could leave us relient on other countries in those calculations . Really now you couldn't viably reopen the old ones though new ones especially open cast could possibly be viable I think now you are better of throwing the money at renewables and better use of what we have (led lighting insulation etc)
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17-07-2013, 17:29
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
I worked for the British Coal Opencast Executive up to the time that it was privatised and the coalmines sold to Richard Budge.
It was the Opencast side of British Coal that subsidised the deep mines and kept them open.
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17-07-2013, 19:38
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
Blinking Nora. Is this another miners strike / Maggie hate thread?
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17-07-2013, 19:46
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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Blinking Nora. Is this another miners strike / Maggie hate thread?
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Don't know about that,
My point is that if they did open the mines again the work force would not be home grown lets be truthful. To make it pay they would have to pay slave labor wages and only the eastern block workers would accept that. Every tom, dick and harry would rush to the uk looking for a job in the mines and home grown workers would not get a look in.
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19-07-2013, 15:09
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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Given that you can't get the Jeremy Kyle generation off their sofa's for a clean job, there's no way any of them would be going down a pit anytime soon. It would be jobs for yet more immigrants, who would need health services, schools and houses.
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Jeremy Kyle generation is a bit harsh. As for immigrants if they have a job then all the better, reports this week suggested we need to increase the immigrant population to deal with the increasing cost of the aging population. Ideally immigrants that stay here for 5/10/20 years and return home like a large amount of the Polish immigrants did.
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19-07-2013, 15:56
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Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
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Jeremy Kyle generation is a bit harsh. As for immigrants if they have a job then all the better, reports this week suggested we need to increase the immigrant population to deal with the increasing cost of the aging population. Ideally immigrants that stay here for 5/10/20 years and return home like a large amount of the Polish immigrants did.
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Go home, how do you know large amounts went home, nobody bothered to count them in I doubt they'll count them out either and at all the factories we work for their not going home, ever, their here to stay.
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