Soldier murdered in terrorist incident in Woolwich

I am amazed at how many heroes all over the net have expressed the fact they would have jumped in and battered these psychos

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was reading a comment from that link and it made me think.

what has, or is, our government doing to protect us?

it just seems that they just hope nothing happens, and if it does they'll deal with the after event and tell us to get on back to our lives as normal.

until the next time.

please stop talking, posting. go take a nap.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I am amazed at how many heroes all over the net have expressed the fact they would have jumped in and battered these psychos

So many are brave until they have to prove it. I wonder how many people would have gone to the killers like this woman did and the two other women who went to protect the body and speak to the killers too. I would probably be very far away hiding behind a bin.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by thenry

please stop talking, posting. go take a nap.

I'm not sleepy. and it's still light outside.

I think some action needs to be taken behind the scenes. because I think there's more to come from this event.
we can't keep saying that justice will be done and we'll carry on until something happens.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by danielf

I would expect a psychological evaluation of the 'suspects' to be standard procedure in an investigation of this sort.

what if they come back to reality then go insane to avoid facing reality?

Originally Posted by Damien

Insanity plea also means they would be unlikely to leave prison.

prison or padded room?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by thenry

what if they come back to reality then go insane to avoid facing reality?

prison or padded room?

I don't think it's so easy to feign insanity. Either way, as Damien says: the alternative will still be incarceration.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I can see why some people may think the woman was impressive. and I can see why the rest will think she was an idiot.

she didn't know what had gone on. she thought it was a road accident.

she may have been killed from her 'stupidity' too.

You may think she was stupid but i see her as a very brave lady

She saw him with blood all over himself,holding a cleaver and a gun ,he may well have continued hacking away at someone else to get more attention had she not spoken to him ,if a man had gone to him to try to get the weapons off him then we may well be reading about 2 murders ,some women have a natural gift for defusing tense and violent situations by simply staying calm themselves ,had a man confronted them it would be confrontational which just exacerbates situations like these

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was reading a comment from that link and it made me think.

what has, or is, our government doing to protect us?

it just seems that they just hope nothing happens, and if it does they'll deal with the after event and tell us to get on back to our lives as normal.

until the next time.

What would you expect the government to do about these type of people who are prepared to give their own lives in pursuit of martyrdom

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I'm not sleepy. and it's still light outside.

I think some action needs to be taken behind the scenes. because I think there's more to come from this event.
we can't keep saying that justice will be done and we'll carry on until something happens.

We understand that, its the way your coming across the doesnt sit well. have faith and push for change. not to the extremes as well like the nut jobs EDL BNP, more so sensible change. human beings, thats what we are.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

You may think she was stupid but i see her as a very brave lady

She saw him with blood all over himself,holding a cleaver and a gun ,he may well have continued hacking away at someone else to get more attention had she not spoken to him ,if a man had gone to him to try to get the weapons off him then we may well be reading about 2 murders ,some women have a natural gift for defusing tense and violent situations by simply staying calm themselves ,had a man confronted them it would be confrontational which just exacerbates situations like these

I actually believe they had no intention of hurting any members of the public. granted if it was a man or even a woman that confronted them, then he may have attacked them too.

I'm actually more peeved that Dave was using this as one of them stupid idle threats to the watching British extremists.

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Originally Posted by martyh

What would you expect the government to do about these type of people who are prepared to give their own lives in pursuit of martyrdom

The ones that they know about that might do it today, tomorrow, or when they can be bothered?

[thenry]

Originally Posted by danielf

I don't think it's so easy to feign insanity. Either way, as Damien says: the alternative will still be incarceration.

anythings possible

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8568974.html

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by thenry

We understand that, its the way your coming across the doesnt sit well.

Oh. sorry.
shall I put a few LOLs in so I sound happy?

have faith and push for change. not to the extremes as well like the nut jobs EDL BNP, more so sensible change. human beings, thats what we are.

Well said.
what we pushing to have changed then?

Originally Posted by Gary L

I actually believe they had no intention of hurting any members of the public. granted if it was a man or even a woman that confronted them, then he may have attacked them too.

I'm actually more peeved that Dave was using this as one of them stupid idle threats to the watching British extremists.

Why is it a "stupid idle threat" ? Our intelligence services have been extremely successful in combating terror threats over the last few years ,not one up to now and since 7/7 has come to fruition and a large number of would be terrorists are in jail .

---------- Post added at 19:52 ---------- Previous post was at 19:49 ----------

Originally Posted by Gary L

I actually believe they had no intention of hurting any members of the public. granted if it was a man or even a woman that confronted them, then he may have attacked them too.

I'm actually more peeved that Dave was using this as one of them stupid idle threats to the watching British extremists.

---------- Post added at 19:45 ---------- Previous post was at 19:43 ----------



The ones that they know about that might do it today, tomorrow, or when they can be bothered?

see above ,they seem to be doing quite a good job of preventing those who might do it today, tomorrow, or when they can be bothered

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by martyh

You may think she was stupid but i see her as a very brave lady

She saw him with blood all over himself,holding a cleaver and a gun ,he may well have continued hacking away at someone else to get more attention had she not spoken to him ,if a man had gone to him to try to get the weapons off him then we may well be reading about 2 murders ,some women have a natural gift for defusing tense and violent situations by simply staying calm themselves ,had a man confronted them it would be confrontational which just exacerbates situations like these

Very true that is why I never argue with our lass

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

Why is it a "stupid idle threat" ? Our intelligence services have been extremely successful in combating terror threats over the last few years ,not one up to now and since 7/7 has come to fruition and a large number of would be terrorists are in jail .

The thing about most of them is that they were either born in this country. and fighting for another country. or they fled from a country to come and live here. and fight for the country they fled.

the point being that there's many of them. who the 'authorities' know are a threat. a ticking time bomb. but the British way is that unless they get caught in the act. then they are left ticking away.