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Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.
View Poll Results: Are you experiencing this issue when watching VM TV?
Yes 1 2.27%
No 43 97.73%
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Old 12-05-2013, 20:18   #16
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

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How and why does this happen? I'm more intrigued than anything else as this is happening on a CRT TV that is due to be replaced.
I wonder if your TV is in teletext mode and page 888 is selected. Press the 'TV' button on your TV remote (often it has a blank TV screen logo)
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Old 12-05-2013, 20:31   #17
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Just to add that I watched a recording of The Andrew Marr Show shortly after it's broadcast this morning and 888 appeared again (also on a BBC1 programme.)

I rewound the PVR and noted that they weren't present on the same segment of footage, so I have a feeling it could be a TV fault, especially with the results from the poll too.

How and why does this happen? I'm more intrigued than anything else as this is happening on a CRT TV that is due to be replaced.
You have far too much spare time, wasting your time with such trivial matters as demanding compensation for a faulty remote control and setting up a poll about 888 appearing on screen is extremely pathetic.
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Old 12-05-2013, 20:38   #18
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You have far too much spare time, wasting your time with such trivial matters as demanding compensation for a faulty remote control and setting up a poll about 888 appearing on screen is extremely pathetic.
And that is where I'm stepping in to ensure this thread stays civil.

If anybody disagrees with another forum user's posting style then simply do not look in a thread they have started.
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Old 12-05-2013, 20:43   #19
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

Teletext type programme subtitles are still available on at least one channel that I know of, namely French channel TV5. 888 is not the page that they use, but sometimes English or other language subtitles are available for a programme. These subtitles are separate from the STB subtitles and are probably not available on a record programme. IE to use the, you have to be watching the programme 'live'. Would they be extracted from the analogue broadcast signal and encoded into the MPEG2 recorded streams? Other teletext pages (eg news, sport) are also available on TV5, but they are in French.
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Old 12-05-2013, 21:34   #20
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Would they be extracted from the analogue broadcast signal and encoded into the MPEG2 recorded streams?
There's probably no analogue involved. MPEG2 transport streams can carry teletext and/or DVB subtitles. The VM PVRs will record them.
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

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From hospital?
No, at home What an odd thing to come out with! The TV in hospital isn't VM.

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I wonder if your TV is in teletext mode and page 888 is selected. Press the 'TV' button on your TV remote (often it has a blank TV screen logo)
Cheers, I'll try that when I am able to
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There's probably no analogue involved. MPEG2 transport streams can carry teletext and/or DVB subtitles. The VM PVRs will record them.
Teletext is not in the MPEG2 streams. The info is carried in first few lines in the analogue signal that don't form part of the picture. How would the other pages news etc be in the MPEG2 streams?
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

Teletext was originally carried in the vertical blanking interval of analogue video. Because digital has no VBI, teletext is carried on a separate PID in the MPEG transport stream instead.

See http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/...72v010301p.pdf
Also http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/...75v010201p.pdf
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Old 12-05-2013, 22:59   #24
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

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No, at home What an odd thing to come out with! The TV in hospital isn't VM.

he's simply clarifying which tv you are talking about because in your other thread you said you where in hospital at this time so it is a tad confusing


My crt tv does the same if i catch the text button by accident and subtitles come up if available
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

That explains it, cheers

I'm not even sure if this TV has teletext as I don't have the remote for it, I use the VM remote for everything.
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Re: Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.

Just done a test with TV5 and the V+ does seem to record all of the teletext type pages, news etc.
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