General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1. - Page 162

HDFootyMan · 09-03-2013, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Put it this way:

20 per month x 1.8 million customers on XL.

I'm sure for the additional ITV HD channels, Sky pay ITV 10p per month per HD customer.

Chad · 09-03-2013, 22:47

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

I seen it reported that its 20p per XL subscriber.

That is what I heard a few years back. Maybe an insider confirm if this is just pure rubbish. It sticks clearly in my mind as I could hardly believe Virgin would only pay 20p per XL customer.

I wish I could remember who it was who made this suggestion originally. I actually think I read it before I was even a member of the site.

I'm sure an insider can confirm is this figure is close, or way off the mark.

HDFootyMan · 09-03-2013, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Chad

That is what I heard a few years back. Maybe an insider confirm if this is just pure rubbish. It sticks clearly in my mind as I could hardly believe Virgin would only pay 20p per XL customer.

I wish I could remember who it was who made this suggestion originally. I actually think I read it before I was even a member of the site.

I'm sure an insider can confirm is this figure is close, or way off the mark.

I'm sure I've read somewhere (can't find the link) that Sky are paying ITV around 10p extra per customer for ITV HD 2, 3, and 4.

Might seem small change, but when multiplied by the number of customers....Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£!

Arthurgray50@blu · 09-03-2013, 23:14

Lets put it this way about American Wrestling, IF someone can prove to me beyond any doubt that the American Wrestling is NOT fixed, then l will streak round London for Charity.

09-03-2013, 23:33

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Lets put it this way about American Wrestling, IF someone can prove to me beyond any doubt that the American Wrestling is NOT fixed, then l will streak round London for Charity.

All pro wresting is fixed (except freestyle, roman Greco), I remember 30 years ago on holiday I saw Giant Haystacks lose to a pin full from a 12 stone wrestler. If he sat on him he would have put him in hospital!

ocav · 10-03-2013, 00:00

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

Put it this way:

20 per month x 1.8 million customers on XL.

I'm sure for the additional ITV HD channels, Sky pay ITV 10p per month per HD customer.

Yeah but ESPN is Â£10 a month for anyone not on XL, so does that mean Virgin Media get about Â£9 in profit from every ESPN (non-XL) subscriber?

I can see that being a figure for non subscription based channels, but for a subscription channel I bet it's quite a bit. Lets pretend virgin got sky sports included on the XL pack, I doubt they would be able to reduce it to less than Â£10 a month per customer...

HDFootyMan · 10-03-2013, 00:14

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Originally Posted by ocav

Yeah but ESPN is Â£10 a month for anyone not on XL, so does that mean Virgin Media get about Â£9 in profit from every ESPN (non-XL) subscriber?

I can see that being a figure for non subscription based channels, but for a subscription channel I bet it's quite a bit. Lets pretend virgin got sky sports included on the XL pack, I doubt they would be able to reduce it to less than Â£10 a month per customer...

VM don't make that amount of profit with ESPN, at least, not in that way.

If ESPN was Â£10 per month for everyone on VM, how many people would take it? Not many.

ESPN get away with it on Sky because on that platform, customers are more willing to pay for premium content.

By doing a wholesale deal with VM, ESPN win due to extra cash (20p per XL customer every month). VM win because XL looks more attractive to upgrade to (which doesn't do ESPN any harm). XL customers win because they get the ESPN content at no extra cost.

Everyone wins.

Didn't Premier Sports want to be on XL as well as opposed to being a Premium channel? Why wouldn't they? 20p per XL customer every month vs hoping that a few will sign up for Â£10 per month.

spiderplant · 10-03-2013, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Lets put it this way about American Wrestling, IF someone can prove to me beyond any doubt that the American Wrestling is NOT fixed, then l will streak round London for Charity.

Arthur: we're still waiting for you to streak round London from when VM got Sky basics back.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34654553-post537.html

robson689 · 10-03-2013, 00:30

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Originally Posted by ocav

Yeah but ESPN is Â£10 a month for anyone not on XL, so does that mean Virgin Media get about Â£9 in profit from every ESPN (non-XL) subscriber?

I can see that being a figure for non subscription based channels, but for a subscription channel I bet it's quite a bit. Lets pretend virgin got sky sports included on the XL pack, I doubt they would be able to reduce it to less than Â£10 a month per customer...

ESPN is Â£8 a month with Virgin, or Â£6 a month if you take Sky Sports with it. (no extra cost for XL).

MalteseFalcon · 10-03-2013, 00:58

Wrestling is fixed in as much as the winner(s) are determined before the fight and then the wrestlers themselves work out how the match goes. There is always the risk of a real injury occurring.

A couple of examples. First, don't watch if squeamish. Second, lots of blood. Potentially NSFW.

Wrestler breaks leg jumping from ropes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOSYcM4AJ8k

Wrestler has faced busted open by a ladder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUTkL9euv60

One wrestler even suffered life changing neck injuries after another wrestler did a move wrong. No-one disputes the fact wrestling is 'fixed'. If we choose to watch it and buy into it as real, then who is getting harmed? Does it alter your life in some way Arthur if people choose to buy into wrestling? If not, then let those of us who like wrestling get on with enjoying it.

Anyway, sorry for going off topic. Does anyone know when the deal with WWE runs out, and are we likely to get a new deal?

10-03-2013, 01:14

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

It's the coming soon thread, going off topic is the norm.

Sirius · 10-03-2013, 04:53

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Arthur: we're still waiting for you to streak round London from when VM got Sky basics back.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34654553-post537.html

To be honest i would prefer he did not streak. I like to keep my meal down.

johnasimmons · 10-03-2013, 09:58

Maybe the loss of ITV On Demand (except for the 7 day catch-up) and the non-appearance of ITV 2/3/4 HD are related?

huxleypiguk · 10-03-2013, 10:02

I would think that there are a link, probably due to multiplex upgrading issues. If ITV player is to have ITV 2, 3 and 4HD content then this would have needed to be upgraded at the same time. Problems with this would set back the launch.

muppetman11 · 10-03-2013, 10:03

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Originally Posted by huxleypiguk

I would think that there are a link, probably due to multiplex upgrading issues. If ITV player is to have ITV 2, 3 and 4HD content then this would have needed to be upgraded at the same time. Problems with this would set back the launch.

ITV player doesn't have any HD content on any platform currently.