Sky to buy O2 & Be Phone/Broadband services

[Ryan92]

The Fabulous Fourskin from Sky - Bereaved n Bitter.
Wonder how long it'll take for that campaign to hit off :p

Interesting that O2 are leaving the Broadband market - I'm sure I read it was to do with giving them more resources to launch 4G?

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Ryan92

Interesting that O2 are leaving the Broadband market - I'm sure I read it was to do with giving them more resources to launch 4G?

I think it was more to do with the dire state of the Spanish economy, Telefonica's enormous debt and having no fibre product.

Hemorrhaging customers like rats leaving the Titanic it would only seem sensible to sell the business before there were no customers/business left at all.

[Horizon]

....yep, and the fact they were just too small to compete against Sky, VM and BT in this country.

It won't be too many years now before there will be just 3 or 4 big media companies which own a terrestrial tv channel, a pay tv business, phone, broadband and mobile.

Next thing on the horizon is who will buy ITV?

[qasdfdsaq]

Be was getting nowhere with their fibre offerings and without it they would have been seriously uncompetitive. Good job now O2/Be customers will have access to Sky's FTTC service, which frankly, is one of the better ones.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Be was getting nowhere with their fibre offerings and without it they would have been seriously uncompetitive. Good job now O2/Be customers will have access to Sky's FTTC service, which frankly, is one of the better ones.

Which is frankly an Openreach one. Which O2 had access to as did Be.

Mobile services are still under the controll of the parent company EE (EverythingEverywhere) as is T-Mobile.

[qasdfdsaq]

It's the core that's the problem, Be's network wasn't up to providing FTTC over Openreach GEA.

O2 might have had access to it but their customers couldn't buy any service from them, it was trials only.

No idea what you mean about mobile though... O2 certainly isn't a subsidiary of EE and Be didn't offer a mobile service.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

O2 certainly isn't a subsidiary of EE and Be didn't offer a mobile service.

I did think that, I thought it was orginally BT Mobile or One2One

[The Installer]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

I did think that, I thought it was orginally BT Mobile or One2One

O2 used to be Cellnet

T-Mobile used to be One2One

Or the existing companies absorbed/took over these original companies

[qasdfdsaq]

BT Cellnet was sold off and renamed to O2, then bought by Telefonica

One2One was bought over by Deutsche Telekom and renamed T-Mobile. Which later merged 3G networks with 3 under MBNL and later still merged with France Telecom owned Orange to form EE.

Irony aside, I still don't get the connection...

[gooner4life]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Which is frankly an Openreach one. Which O2 had access to as did Be.

Mobile services are still under the controll of the parent company EE (EverythingEverywhere) as is T-Mobile.

Which is not an Openreach one - Openreach do not provide the Internet Connection - Openreach provide the link to the equipment in the Exchange - Sky provide the Exchange equipment and Backhaul - and they also provide a better service than BT or Virgin.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by gooner4life

Sky provide the Exchange equipment and Backhaul - and they also provide a better service than BT or Virgin.

Its debatable between BT and Sky, since BT have removed any throttling I would say the 2 are equal and although there are workarounds, you can easily change router with BT

Top and tail, both blow VM out of the water

[gooner4life]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Its debatable between BT and Sky, since BT have removed any throttling I would say the 2 are equal and although there are workarounds, you can easily change router with BT

Top and tail, both blow VM out of the water

MER authentication is a bit of a nuisance, however I like the SkyHub, I think it's silly not to make it Gig-E but it doesn't affect me personally - I don't move files around over my home network and 10/100 is fine for connecting my devices directly to the router via Ethernet.

I'd only personally look to change router if I had issues with NAT or flakey connections to devices over Wifi like I had with the Superhub which frankly should be renamed as there is nothing Super about it in reality - though on paper it sounds nice.

[RamJet]

I'm wondering about the BB speed issue

I recently moved ALL my services from VM to SKY after 10 good years as I was incandescent about how VM ignored Android users and only ran mobile TV services for Apple products

now I'm very happy with Sky Go on my Android smartphone - use it all the time

what I'm not happy about is 2 weeks forfore the change over date VM finally increased the speed to 20 Mb & it was very zippy & stable

now my Sky BB IS not so fast & frankly sluggish

is there any chance that the purchase of O2 & Be will mean Sky has more capacity and can improve their BB speeds ?

[qasdfdsaq]

No.

[gooner4life]

Originally Posted by RamJet

I'm wondering about the BB speed issue

I recently moved ALL my services from VM to SKY after 10 good years as I was incandescent about how VM ignored Android users and only ran mobile TV services for Apple products

now I'm very happy with Sky Go on my Android smartphone - use it all the time

what I'm not happy about is 2 weeks forfore the change over date VM finally increased the speed to 20 Mb & it was very zippy & stable

now my Sky BB IS not so fast & frankly sluggish

is there any chance that the purchase of O2 & Be will mean Sky has more capacity and can improve their BB speeds ?

Not a chance - Sky's core network has plenty of capacity, and is improved daily by the way.

The problem with your Broadband is more than likely related to the wiring either in your property or to your property or both - which is an Openreach problem.

If you're not happy with it, call Sky, report it, see what they can do, they are genuinely very good at this sort of thing.