Police 'right to strike' vote fails.

Originally Posted by Sirius

If its voluntary then i don't see why Arthur is complaining.

Do you really not?

Since when has Art allowed facts to get in the way of a good rant?

[Osem]

@ Sirius - They don't have to pay for Police training but if they want to do some sort of vocational or other course to assist them on their way then fees are likely to be payable depending on their individual circumstances.



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Anyway, it's great that our police won't be going on strike anytime soon isn't it...

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Sirus, l am NOT complaining, What l am saying is that the course is part of the new package to become a police officer and it save costs.

What the belief is that the course you have to pay for, if you pass the exam which is at the end, you then go onto training college, it was brought in by the government to save costs at Hendon, and also time to get bobbies on the beat quicker.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Do you really not?

Since when has Art allowed facts to get in the way of a good rant?

Please accept my apology, the pain killers have not fully warn off yet

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Sirus, l am NOT complaining, What l am saying is that the course is part of the new package to become a police officer and it save costs.

What the belief is that the course you have to pay for, if you pass the exam which is at the end, you then go onto training college, it was brought in by the government to save costs at Hendon, and also time to get bobbies on the beat quicker.

Simply question Arthur is the course VOLUNTERY

YES - NO please tick as required

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The course is mandatory - if you don't do then you cannot go to Hendon

[Osem]

Is Arthur banging on about this I wonder?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/forci...t-6484492.html

The Met plans to shift recruitment away from Hendon policing school and take new entrants directly from special constables who train on the job. At present, new recruits undergo 25 weeks of instruction. But volunteer specials, who spend a minimum of 300 hours a year on patrol, currently get 23 days' basic training.

Under the new scheme they would have to take a course in policing and the law as well as in patrol work.

No mention of fees.

[nomadking]

The Met aren't taking on new recruits at the moment anyway.

Link

The MPS are currently not accepting new applications for police officers. Please check this page for regular updates.

14. If my application has been unsuccessful, when can I re-apply?

You may re-apply after 6-months from the time you were notified of the outcome of your application. However, you should consider the reason for rejection to ensure a further application will not be rejected on the same grounds.

2. Are you recruiting for new constables?

The MPS has changed the way that it recruits police constables. The majority of police officer recruits will now come from serving MPS special constables and PCSOs. Currently the only route for external applicants to become a police officer is by joining the MPS as a Special Constable. MPS special constables are able to apply for the role of police officer when internal vacancies arise if they have attained Independent Patrol Status (IPS) and have a current satisfactory appraisal. Independent Patrol Status is the term given when a special constable has reached a satisfactory standard of competence to enable them to patrol independently.
Special constables will be required to complete an internal application form (when internal vacancies arise) and undertake the Police National Recruitment Standard (NRS) assessment process, which is often called Day 1 (assessment centre) and Day 2 (medical and fitness). All special constable candidates, who achieve the MPS standard at Day 1 NRS, will undertake training which recognises their previous learning and operational experience before being appointed as a police constable. In future when external recruitment reopens, it is likely to be for a very limited number of vacancies.
Included in the new process for the recruitment is the proposal of a "third pathway" for external applicants. That would include applicants precluded from being special constables by virtue of their profession or personal circumstances (including graduates). At this stage this external route is not currently developed and will not be activated for 2011-12 recruitment. Plans in respect of 2012-13 MPS police recruitment are also currently not developed. Any new information or development will be posted to our careers website.

Is this "third pathway" that is being referred to? The Special Constable or PCSO route should still be an option.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

Is Arthur banging on about this I wonder?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/forci...t-6484492.html



No mention of fees.

Well i would have asked Arthur to give us a link but that's like asking Argentina to give up on the Falklands and start calling it the Falklands

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The Met aren't taking on new recruits at the moment anyway.

Link

Is this "third pathway" that is being referred to? The Special Constable or PCSO route should still be an option.

Thanks for the info

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Osem

Is Arthur banging on about this I wonder?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/forci...t-6484492.html



No mention of fees.

That article is from June 2010.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

nomadking, you are totally wrong.
Specials and PCSO's are being recruited, BUT not at the moment, my son starts his course in April, yes he is a PCSO and starts his course then.

I will find out what this course is called - but l can assure you, you have to pay for it. Specials can apply, but they will still have to do the course.

I will speak with my son and ask him what the course is called - talk about non believers.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

nomadking, you are totally wrong.
Specials and PCSO's are being recruited, BUT not at the moment, my son starts his course in April, yes he is a PCSO and starts his course then.

I will find out what this course is called - but l can assure you, you have to pay for it. Specials can apply, but they will still have to do the course.

I will speak with my son and ask him what the course is called - talk about non believers.

Without links you could say anything you wanted, links to the info will prove or disprove you post simples

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Siruis, spoke with my son, there are several courses, and the course he is going on where you get a certificate in policing is with SANCUS SOLUTIONS, and he is paying £795.00 for.

You go Saturdays and Sunday, and when you pass it gets you to Hendon.

[nomadking]

Still not 10 weeks. It is 10 half-days over 5 weekends.

• Westminster Kingsway College (Course1) (Almost Full)

  Commencing 15th April

  Classroom Delivery dates -

  • Sat/Sun 27th and 28th April 2013
  • Sat/Sun 11th and 12th May 2013
  • Sat/Sun 1st and 2nd June 2013
  • Sat/Sun 15th and 16th June 2013
  • Sat/Sun 22nd and 23rd June 2013

  Wouldn't a PCSO have had to do something like this already?

[danielf]

http://www.sancussolutions.co.uk/cer...e-of-policing/

Certificate In Knowledge Of Policing

If you are thinking of the police as a career there is a new qualification available – the Certificate In Knowledge Of Policing. Obtaining this certificate is obligatory for candidates seeking to join the Metropolitan Police and advisable for all other forces in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

There will be a limited number of organisations approved by the newly formed College of Policing who can deliver the training needed for you to successfully obtain this certificate. It is a big investment from you both in time and money so it is important that you pick the provider that is right for you. To select your Sancus course and book a place follow this link

So, Arthur was right. It's obligatory, and you pay for it yourself.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Siruis, spoke with my son, there are several courses, and the course he is going on where you get a certificate in policing is with SANCUS SOLUTIONS, and he is paying £795.00 for.

You go Saturdays and Sunday, and when you pass it gets you to Hendon.

I don't think these courses are in any way compulsory but most forces seem to be going down the route of wanting applicants to have experience before joining whether it is as a special, PCSO or having a relevant qualification.

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Originally Posted by danielf

[url]So, Arthur was right. It's obligatory, and you pay for it yourself.

From the Met website.

Qualifications
There are no formal educational requirements to become a police officer. However, you will need to have a reasonable standard of English and numeracy if you are to succeed during the selection process.

I think the company might be exaggerating its course a touch.