Unpaid workschemes are illegal

http://news.sky.com/story/1051035/gr...id-work-scheme

A university graduate who was made to work at Poundland for free under a Government scheme has won her Court of Appeal claim.
Cait Reilly, 24, had argued that being forced to work in the discount shop for nothing while she looked for a permanent job was unlawful.
Three judges in London ruled that the regulations under which most of the Government's back-to-work schemes were created are unlawful and quashed them.

Their solicitors said later the ruling means "all those people who have been sanctioned by having their jobseekers' allowance withdrawn for non-compliance with the back-to-work schemes affected will be entitled to reclaim their benefits"

So it looks as though plans to give people work experience and earn their benefits have been scuppered .It looks as though we must continue to give people free money ...for free

[Gary L]

WOO HOO!

This is great news for the exploited of the UK.

This is absolutely brilliant news. This was tantamount to slavery

Its one thing training someone up in a job worth having but stacking shelves and pushing a mop. If the shops need staff to do these jobs then THEY SHOULD BLOODY WELL EMPLOY THEM AND PAY THEM and yes I was shouting

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Oh and Marty you just want another mega left vs right thread again lol

[Gary L]

This is going to shake everything up big time. all those people who are working for free don't have to do it no more.

I can imagine the celebrations going on at jobcentres all over the country!

Originally Posted by martyh

So it looks as though plans to give people work experience and earn their benefits have been scuppered .It looks as though we must continue to give people free money ...for free

Or the companies that offer these schemes can pay their workers. There is no justification for us to pay to help Poundland have 'interns'. Forcing people to work for free should be illegal.

Internships should be voluntary and for real jobs where experience is required and difficult to come by. Newspapers offering Interships or places like Google, they offer real value to the Intern if they choose to take it.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Oh and Marty you just want another mega left vs right thread again lol

This thread is dedicated to GaryL .He can now strut around the forum ,nay the entire internet , saying "i told you so, i knew the workshy layabouts would win in the end" .

So now we will have people sitting on the dole waiting for the ideal job to turn up instead of taking any job to get them off benefits

Originally Posted by Damien

Or the companies that offer these schemes can pay their workers. There is no justification for us to pay to help Poundland have 'interns'. Forcing people to work for free should be illegal.

Internships should be voluntary and for real jobs where experience is required and difficult to come by. Newspapers offering Interships or places like Google, they offer real value to the Intern if they choose to take it.

just imagine I have put the clap smilie in here lol

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Originally Posted by martyh

This thread is dedicated to GaryL .He can now strut around the forum ,nay the entire internet , saying "i told you so, i knew the workshy layabouts would win in the end" .

So now we will have people sitting on the dole waiting for the ideal job to turn up instead of taking any job to get them off benefits

that is your misplaced prejudice there I am afraid

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Originally Posted by martyh

This thread is dedicated to GaryL .He can now strut around the forum ,nay the entire internet , saying "i told you so, i knew the workshy layabouts would win in the end" .

So now we will have people sitting on the dole waiting for the ideal job to turn up instead of taking any job to get them off benefits

these were not jobs to get people of benefits where did you get that idea?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

This thread is dedicated to GaryL .He can now strut around the forum ,nay the entire internet , saying "i told you so, i knew the workshy layabouts would win in the end" .

Well, I did say that it was illegal. and look what happened.

I'm so happy for everyone!

Originally Posted by martyh

So now we will have people sitting on the dole waiting for the ideal job to turn up instead of taking any job to get them off benefits

They're still on benefits. They're being made to work for these companies for free or risk losing them.

Originally Posted by Damien

Or the companies that offer these schemes can pay their workers. There is no justification for us to pay to help Poundland have 'interns'. Forcing people to work for free should be illegal.

Internships should be voluntary and for real jobs where experience is required and difficult to come by. Newspapers offering Interships or places like Google, they offer real value to the Intern if they choose to take it.

A) they got paid ,via benefits

B) mopping floors,stacking shelves and getting out of bed in the morning is just as much work experience as learning how to lay bricks or do admin work

[Gary L]

Now let's discuss compensation claims.

Originally Posted by martyh

A) they got paid ,via benefits

B) mopping floors,stacking shelves and getting out of bed in the morning is just as much work experience as learning how to lay bricks or do admin work

absolute cods wallop. The should allow the long term unemployed to take 6 to 12 months off looking for work ( specially seeing as there is only 1 job for every 5 unemployed ( keep having to use these figures cuz some refuse to acknowledge this reality )) so they can go to collage and learn some sort of trade or at least create decent courses in things like plumbing or carpentry or bricklaying. Or even reintroduce schemes for apprenticeships or a better fairer implementation of the YTS scheme they had in the 90s. Obviously not the same as it was not that fair but it gives those under the age of 18 who may not be academic to learn practical skills and get a wage as they are not entitled to benefits as a rule

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

these were not jobs to get people of benefits where did you get that idea?

They where a scheme to get people into the habit of work .Once a person has been unemployed for a period of time it is much harder to get them back into work .Having the right ethic goes a long way as far as any employer is concerned ,these schemes only applied to the long term unemployed where designed to get them used to work .

[nomadking]

Home come none of this applied to Labour's schemes?

Originally Posted by martyh

They where a scheme to get people into the habit of work .Once a person has been unemployed for a period of time it is much harder to get them back into work .Having the right ethic goes a long way as far as any employer is concerned ,these schemes only applied to the long term unemployed where designed to get them used to work .

Having a society where there are 2.5 million unemployed and only 500000 jobs to go round means no matter what your ethic is your in trouble