Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage

Originally Posted by Damien

Well let's be careful because I don't think any of us here are Islamic Scholars or even have read the Quran. I do know that often with these religious texts you can selectively quote and interpret from it to make whatever case you want. According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Islam, it's rather a complex topic. It states that women are equal, but one must serve the other, but that only applies to marriage.

I agree ,i do know that the Quran does not say that women are not equal ,it is something that has been interpreted over centuries so the end result is that to varying degrees Islamic women are not equal to men

Also you didn't say some Muslims, you said most Muslims. You also agreed with a poster that Muslims want to take over the world when 'we're all dead'

A flippant remark (note to self ...use more smilies)

Women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims? Well in some respects the same could be said of Christians. After all let's look at the problem with woman bishops. What about society in general? Where it's not easy for women to reach the higher reaches of our society and where they're often judged more on appearances than on merit. Women who get leered at on the street or whistled at. I think women in society can be explored a lot more and it's not a Muslim problem alone.

Again i agree ,the difference is that Christian schools do not (as far as i know)teach that women are not equal .I have already touched on this earlier and recognise that there is still some way to to go with womens rights ,wages is one aspect but the basic principle in our society is that women are equal ,in law if not in practice(but is improving i believe) ,with Muslims in a lot of cases it is actually law that women are not equal

There is a problem in some Asian communities, predominately Islamic ones, when it comes to women as the Rochdale case showed (this case shows nothing other than one child abuser). However this doesn't represent Muslims as a whole any more than child abuse in the Catholic Church represents Catholics.

The one thing they have in common is the lack of respect for women predominantly due to the Islamic teachings .I'm not saying that the teachings these people had told them to go and rape children but it did teach them that women where not equal and that teaching has allowed for crimes like this to happen .

[thenry]

well I can confirm the Quran does scream out inequality between male & female.

[danielf]

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If Christians were big on equality of the sexes they wouldn't have a problem with gay marriage.

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[Osem]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Have you noticed how there is so much debate in the news that is religion based and it all tends to be BAD.

Yeah and all of it about muslims, not a mention of other religions at all...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah and all of it about muslims, not a mention of other religions at all...

Well it does not take the brains of an archbishop to work that out

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

do you not have a BBC link?

Was that a serious question

This is actually quite old news now, I reported on this in another thread ofa similar topic on 27/01/2013

The thread title was: 'Indonesian judge says rape victims enjoy it'

I posted

The accused could have used the same excuse as this guy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-girl-13.html

Apologies for not finding a more suitable link for some members, I am unable to find the story from what some members would consider a reliable source. I have searched on the BBC website digging into the local sections where they often hide politically incorrect news, but not had any luck.

I guess this story may turn out to be old or untrue, but perhaps it's just a little unpalatable for the BBC to report.

I did search on the BBC for a few days after I posted, even looking right down into the regional news where the BBC like to hide non pc stories. If I find any story which may not be pc to report, I always I always check to see if the BBC are running it. I have found in the past that stories showing certain groups like this have appeared on the BBC only to be pulled very quickly!

I admit that I do look at some very unreliable sources for news, but rather than taking at face value I research to see what I can find out about the facts of the story. This often leads to news that for one reason of another is not reported by certain organisations.

Relying solely on the BBC as a source of news does not give oneself the full story, which can lead to an unbiased view.

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah and all of it about muslims, not a mention of other religions at all...

Really? It isn't that long ago that the biggest threat Britain faced from Terrorist wasn't from Muslims but Irish Republicans who were predominately Catholic. Most terrorist activity in Europe involves separatist movements, such as Basque in Spain.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Really? It isn't that long ago that the biggest threat Britain faced from Terrorist wasn't from Muslims but Irish Republicans who were predominately Catholic. Most terrorist activity in Europe involves separatist movements, such as Basque in Spain.

Left wing extremists as well. Rote Armee/Baader-Meinhoff in Germany and the Red Brigades in Italy, but that's a while ago.

Originally Posted by danielf

Left wing extremists as well. Rote Armee/Baader-Meinhoff in Germany and the Red Brigades in Italy, but that's a while ago.

Well let's not forget the Lord's Resistance Army headed by Joseph Kony (yes, of Kony 2012 fame) in parts of Africa (mostly the middle part).

The group is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesman of God and a spirit medium. Since 1987, Kony is believed to have recruited between 60,000 and 100,000 child soldiers and displaced around 2 million people throughout central Africa.

Predominately Christian fundamentalism and this is a nasty group, child soldiers and constant deaths thoughout the years. This is an actual army of terrorists operating in Africa.

Their Wiki page shows a pretty horrific list of deaths:

Between September 2008 and July 2011, the group, despite being down to only a few hundred fighters, has killed more than 2,300 people, abducted more than 3,000, and displaced over 400,000 across the DR Congo, South Sudan and the Central African Republic.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Really? It isn't that long ago that the biggest threat Britain faced from Terrorist wasn't from Muslims but Irish Republicans who were predominately Catholic. Most terrorist activity in Europe involves separatist movements, such as Basque in Spain.

I think you missed the fact that I was being sarcastic following Zee's post re. the media fixation with Muslims as opposed to other religions. I lived through the IRA bombings in London and my late wife narrowly missed bombs at the Ideal Home Exhibition and London Bridge in the 70's and 80's.

Originally Posted by Osem

I think you missed the fact that I was being sarcastic. I lived through the bombings lin London.

I wasn't sure, I did see the use of but because of the post you replied too I thought you were being sarcastic about the idea of it not being Muslims. Sorry.

[Osem]

NP

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I couldn't care less he is a Muslim, or anything else. Good ol British Justice, works every time. Try it yourself & i`l see you in 5 years.