Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Employee outsources own job to China

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

Employee outsources own job to China
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 23-01-2013, 10:24   #16
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,556
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Employee outsources own job to China

Richard, you state
Quote:
Sometimes a customer may be verbally abusive for good reason
Why is it, then, that most major companies* train their staff to respond to being verbally abused (on the telephone or over a counter) by informing the customer that it is not acceptable for anyone to be abusive, and if it continues, they will refuse to serve the customer/put the phone down.

There is a huge, huge difference between speaking to customers, employers, colleagues, suppliers etc with courtesy and respect (which I totally agree with), and being expected to accept verbal abuse.

*the companies I know personally who train this way are BT, O2, Next, Asda, Directline, Halifax - others I have been informed of, by people who work there, are the Hilton and Holiday Inn hotel chains, DWP, British Gas, Npower.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 23-01-2013, 12:53   #17
BenMcr
Virgin Media Staff
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Manchester
Services: 360 x2, Maxit TV, Sky Sports and Sky Cinema. Gig1
Posts: 17,929
BenMcr has a pair of shiny starsBenMcr has a pair of shiny starsBenMcr has a pair of shiny starsBenMcr has a pair of shiny stars
BenMcr has a pair of shiny starsBenMcr has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Employee outsources own job to China

Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim View Post
It is called following the script. Try calling HMR&C. Follow the script is the mantra & that is based in UK. Staff get into trouble if caught going off script
Before I worked for VM I did a temporary job working for a company that booked assessments for Construction Industry Safety Card Scheme

They had exactly the same thing - sheet of A4 for the call script and spaces to insert the name of the person you were speaking to. Change one of the other words and you'd be called over to 'discuss' it

---------- Post added at 12:53 ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
*the companies I know personally who train this way are BT, O2, Next, Asda, Directline, Halifax - others I have been informed of, by people who work there, are the Hilton and Holiday Inn hotel chains, DWP, British Gas, Npower.
and Virgin Media (at least in the on-shore centres)
BenMcr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2013, 14:36   #18
RichardCoulter
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,694
RichardCoulter has disabled reputation
Re: Employee outsources own job to China

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Richard, you state

Why is it, then, that most major companies* train their staff to respond to being verbally abused (on the telephone or over a counter) by informing the customer that it is not acceptable for anyone to be abusive, and if it continues, they will refuse to serve the customer/put the phone down.

There is a huge, huge difference between speaking to customers, employers, colleagues, suppliers etc with courtesy and respect (which I totally agree with), and being expected to accept verbal abuse.

*the companies I know personally who train this way are BT, O2, Next, Asda, Directline, Halifax - others I have been informed of, by people who work there, are the Hilton and Holiday Inn hotel chains, DWP, British Gas, Npower.
Most people, on the face of it, would say that verbal abuse to staff is unacceptable- end of.

But, it depends very much on the situation and context.

- Many of my staff work in adult environments, often with people under the influence of alcohol. There's an old Yorkshire saying "when drinks in, wits out".

Many won't mean or remember what they are saying afterwards. Those who are going to get offended by adult conversation late at night are unlikely to pass their work trial period.

- What about a dissatisfied customer who has reached the end of his tether because of poor service and indifference/inaction in response to his complaints? What if it involved something emotive, like a funeral wake or his wedding day?

We all have different temperaments and will lose control at various stages. In this scenario, I would expect staff to be apologetic and examine what has happened, not make matters worse by going into a sulk. Sometimes people have a perfect right to be angry and verbal abuse to let off steam is preferable to physical attack.

- Should a nurse be subject to verbal abuse? Most people would say not, but what about when s/he is treating someone who shouts out an expletive due to the pain? Should they be left alone and no longer treated?

- What about if a waiter accidentally spills hot soup all over your new designer suit? There aren't many people who wouldn't react to that politely. Should the diner be refused service whilst sitting in soup covered clothing?

- Some people, unfortunately, know no other way to express themselves. This could be due to mental illness/disability, bad upbringing, lack of education etc. Sadly, this is getting even more prevalent with the emerging "underclass" and "Chav" culture.

If someone were to refuse service to someone suffering from Tourettes Syndrome, they may even find themselves on the end of legal action for disability discrimination!

Of course, there is a world of difference between these scenarios and someone walking into an establishment swearing at staff for the sake of it or to be deliberately provocative.

As you rightly point out, most companies have procedures to deal with such situations and, as long as these are followed and common sense applied, the employee/s should not find themselves facing disciplinary action.
RichardCoulter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:24.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum