Hillsborough Report

**Damien** · 12-09-2012, 07:24

The Hillsborough report is set to be released today, after a long time coming. Already the Independent seems to have had access to some of the documents which apparently show the police changed statements to make themselves look better.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8126233.html

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The Independent has obtained four previously unpublished witness statements written by police constables, who were all on duty at the Leppings Lane end on the disastrous day of Liverpool's FA Cup semi-final with Nottingham Forest in 1989. They show how the documents, originally prepared for an internal inquiry, were altered prior to Lord Taylor's official inquiry later that year to ensure that South Yorkshire Police emerged from the tragedy in a significantly more positive light.

Russ · 12-09-2012, 07:44

I've always been pro-police and that won't change but I can never shake the strong feeling that they were more responsible for the deaths than we know and those involved should (metaphorically) hang for it.

I'm not saying I think the police were completely responsible but they way it appears they made it all out to be the fans is beyond contempt.

**Maggy** · 12-09-2012, 07:52

I suspect that the Liverpool victims and victims families are going to be disappointed. I think there is nothing that can ever satisfy and assuage their grief.No report,inquiry will ever give them the answers they want.

carlwaring · 12-09-2012, 08:23

You're right, of course Maggy. But I'm sure that won't stop them trying/venting at every opportunity. Perhaps it's now time to let it go.

**Damien** · 12-09-2012, 10:24

More news/leaks coming out. It's looking very, very bad for the police.

https://twitter.com/JimBoardman

LondonRoad · 12-09-2012, 10:40

It must have been very difficult for the families to get closure when there was so clearly a coverup and (mis)information appearing in the press.

Hopefully the whole truth coming out will allow them to move on.

**Damien** · 12-09-2012, 12:29

Not long now....The Guardian is reporting that the Hillsborough support groups are pleased.

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Here we go:

"Lessons had not been learned from previous problems, failure on every level to protect fans".

"Delay from emergency services, failures all around".

"Authorities sought to blame fans".

"Source of the The Suns' allegations were the police as part of a police effort to blame the fans".

"Police drew blood from victims in order to 'impune their reputation'"

"No evidence the Government took part in a cover-up".

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A new inquest may be made as the new evidence raises questions and wasn't covered in previous inquest.

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Cameron on Hillsborough: "No grey areas. Today's report is black and white. The Liverpool fans were not to blame for the disaster"

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From David Cameron's statement: 164 statements were significantly amended - and 116 explicitly removed negative comments about the policing operation.

12-09-2012, 12:56

As a liverpool fan for over thirty years i am of course happy that finally the truth is out and that the blame is no longer being put on those fans there that day. 164 police statements altered to coverup incompetence by the south yorkshire police 164 is a coverup way beyond what i thought and i always as a fan knew they were lying about the events that day. For many years some people in this country labelled liverpool fans many things because of the lies spread about hillsborough well for every south yorkshire officer involved in covering up the truth let me just say this YOU ARE THE **** not the fans.

Truth is out but justice is not yet done and won't be till people are charged and prosecuted and from what we have been told there are at least 164 cases to investigate. Also hearing a lot of people saying how the sun and kelvin mcscumzie should apologise, well for this one fan and i suspect many others they can shove it so far a damn gifted proctologist couldn't get it back beccause whilst they may have been lied too that will never ever excuse the enthusiasm they took in spreading such despicable lies about the fans that day and no amount of false apologies or false emotion will ever take back the absolute disgusting crap they published.

Russ · 12-09-2012, 13:09

Someone just said on twitter that it's probably too much to ask The Sun to have their headline tomorrow saying 'The REAL Truth'.

carlwaring · 12-09-2012, 13:09

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

As a liverpool fan for over thirty years i am of course happy that finally the truth is out and that the blame is no longer being put on those fans there that day.

I am so happy for all of you.

(Thought I'd mention that after my previous comment; just in case someone wanted to try and paint me as a non-supporter (of the cause, I mean) or something

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**Damien** · 12-09-2012, 13:11

Will those in the police involved in ordering the changing of statements and the misinformation campaign be investigated for perverting the course of justice?

mullerman · 12-09-2012, 14:58

Shamefull cover up seems to have taken place,the problem is for every 100 good things the police do 1 bad thing totally wrecks there reputation,the stephen lawrence case,birmingham six etc now this.No wonder conspiracy theories about princess diana make people think "it cant be true but hang on......".The more things like this go on,the less people trust and respect the establishment .Could an incident like the hillsborough cover up happen today?,i hope not,with everybody having camera phones etc but hang on....

blackthorn · 12-09-2012, 15:13

If anyone wants to read the report in full and download a copy its here.
http://hillsborough.independent.gov....HIP_report.pdf

Truly shocking reading

Sparkle · 12-09-2012, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Damien

Will those in the police involved in ordering the changing of statements and the misinformation campaign be investigated for perverting the course of justice?

My thoughts too. Normally I'd say not likely, but given the high profile nature in this case I think it just might happen.

danielf · 12-09-2012, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Russ

Someone just said on twitter that it's probably too much to ask The Sun to have their headline tomorrow saying 'The REAL Truth'.

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Kelvin MacKenzie, editor of the Sun at the time of the Hillsborough disaster, has offered the people of Liverpool his "profuse apologies" for his front page story, headlined "The Truth", which falsely alleged that drunken fans had urinated on police and pickpocketed the dead.

MacKenzie said after the publication of the Hillsborough independent panel report on Wednesday about the 1989 disaster, in which 96 Liverpool fans died, that he had discovered to his horror that it would have been "far more accurate had I written the headline The Lies rather than The Truth".

His first unequivocal apology in the 23 years since the notorious front page, which led to a mass boycott of the paper in Merseyside, came after the Hillsborough report concluded that the evidence showed conclusively that the allegations against Liverpool fans on which the Sun splash was based were unfounded.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...-apologies-sun