General Virgin TV Anywhere arriving in Autumn 2012 - Page 2

zantarous · 07-09-2012, 13:42

Because wireless and bluetooth are rubbish for streaming video content. That would also make the box more expensive to manufacture.

toady · 07-09-2012, 13:52

For remote control I'd say there are several options :-

Use your normal internet connection and then back to the TIVo via its built in internet connection although the lag will be horrendous

VM supply a wireless dongle perhaps at extra cost (like Sky does for Anytime+)

VM recommend a home plug solution

VM just say plug it into your router via a cable

Sky don't appear to have any problems in suggesting to their customers to plug the Sky box into the router to get Sky Anytime+ (they have been running TV ads telling their customers to do this) so I can't see any problem with VM doing the same

robtuk06 · 07-09-2012, 13:53

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Originally Posted by zantarous

Because wireless and bluetooth are rubbish for streaming video content. That would also make the box more expensive to manufacture.

Bluetooth yes, wireless no. How do you think you get video to an iPad to start with?

It is a moot point though, because it is only needed for the remote control functions.

07-09-2012, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Risco

So, I will need to plug the TiVo in to my router. Thus requiring either a homeplug or long lead depending on where I want to use it? Why can't they just supply a wireless dongle to plug in to the back, or better yet why was bluetooth not included in the first place? Smacks of a lack of foresight.

Christ they can't win, whatever they do it's not good enough for some people

zantarous · 07-09-2012, 15:09

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Originally Posted by robtuk06

Bluetooth yes, wireless no. How do you think you get video to an iPad to start with?

It is a moot point though, because it is only needed for the remote control functions.

Have you tried streaming massive HD files to your ipad at the other end of your house from the Tivo? Having both ends be wireless will cause the majority of customers problems.

kgollop · 07-09-2012, 15:14

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Originally Posted by pearl

The big question for me is whether sky channels (specifically skysports) will be available to stream live through the website.

Definitely! Is this development also likely to see multi room streaming enabled too?

Sirius · 07-09-2012, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Top banana

Christ they can't win, whatever they do it's not good enough for some people

Bang on

Risco · 07-09-2012, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Top banana

Christ they can't win, whatever they do it's not good enough for some people

This for me personally is an issue and therefore I will vent my opinion. Same as having a very text input driven gui, and not having a bloody qwerty controller to compliment it like they do in the US.

Sirius · 07-09-2012, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Risco

So, I will need to plug the TiVo in to my router. Thus requiring either a homeplug or long lead depending on where I want to use it? Why can't they just supply a wireless dongle to plug in to the back, or better yet why was bluetooth not included in the first place? Smacks of a lack of foresight.

On who's part. Your network in your house is your responsibility and if you want to use this FREE service then you should make sure that YOUR side of the network is ready.

Smacks of complaining for complaining sake if you ask me.

carlwaring · 07-09-2012, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Risco

So, I will need to plug the TiVo in to my router. Thus requiring either a homeplug or long lead depending on where I want to use it? Why can't they just supply a wireless dongle to plug in to the back, or better yet why was bluetooth not included in the first place? Smacks of a lack of foresight.

Stick a BT dongle in the USB port maybe?

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Originally Posted by Risco

This for me personally is an issue and therefore I will vent my opinion. Same as having a very text input driven gui, and not having a bloody qwerty controller to compliment it like they do in the US.

So buy one. It works fine. Or a wireless keyboard.

Helix · 07-09-2012, 16:20

I thought the whole point of them delaying the remote side of the app for over a year was for them to come up with a solution that didn't require you to plug it into a router.

I don't have a problem with plugging mine in as it is right next to the router. But VM seemed to be acting like it was the end of the world a few months ago and there was no way their customers would be able to cope with connecting it to a router. Have the customers become more intelligent over the last couple of months, what has changed?

clinteastman · 07-09-2012, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Risco

This for me personally is an issue and therefore I will vent my opinion. Same as having a very text input driven gui, and not having a bloody qwerty controller to compliment it like they do in the US.

There is always the peanut apps..... The TV Anywhere app has a qwerty too.

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Originally Posted by Helix

I thought the whole point of them delaying the remote side of the app for over a year was for them to come up with a solution that didn't require you to plug it into a router.

I don't have a problem with plugging mine in as it is right next to the router. But VM seemed to be acting like it was the end of the world a few months ago and there was no way their customers would be able to cope with connecting it to a router. Have the customers become more intelligent over the last couple of months, what has changed?

There are two solution rather than the one there was. If you put the time into sorting your network out you get more functionality. The side affect is you don't need to be at home to use the app anymore, apart from using it as a remote that doesn't make sense if you out the house anyway.

Risco · 07-09-2012, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Sirius

On who's part. Your network in your house is your responsibility and if you want to use this FREE service then you should make sure that YOUR side of the network is ready.

Smacks of complaining for complaining sake if you ask me.

Listen, it is not FREE. I am paying a subscription ( VIP ) and this is part of the service. Sky have also had this for years in with the cost of subscription, Virgin are playing catchup. It has sod all to do with my network being ready, Virgin should supply the dongle, does not matter if there is a small cost it should be supplied. Also seriously, it not as if it is something I am asking for that TiVO do not already supply. They also supply a qwerty keypad. If the text input used predictive text like Nokia then there would be an issue.

jamiefrost · 07-09-2012, 17:19

I don't consider the TiVo to be mainly text driven, when i do need text the number pad is fine. Can't wait for the app to be launched streaming will be great.

J

Sirius · 07-09-2012, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Risco

Dunno what your friggin attitude is all about matey, I suggest you drop it.

You can suggest what you like, i am sticking with what i said as that's my opinion.