Superhub new Hub to be released? - Page 4

Stephen · 31-08-2012, 16:17

Ok, as per the earlier mod request.....back on topic please!

This is your final warning.

broadbandking · 31-08-2012, 17:00

I would welcome a new hub been made by Samsung as in the past the Samsung V+ was the best version.

Mick Fisher · 31-08-2012, 18:23

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

I would welcome a new hub been made by Samsung as in the past the Samsung V+ was the best version.

I would welcome a move by ISP's to stop trying to lock subs down to a limited set of options EG DNS servers, no QOS,ETC by supplying them with cheapskate Hubs that are mostly under powered and only seem to work in unexpected ways.

VM are not alone in this, Sky and BE both try it on and there are probably other ISP's that I don't know about.

Why do they bother as judging by the crap hardware and firmware supplied they obviously can't or won't afford to supply decent kit. One can only suppose that insisting on locked down Hubs gives them the ability to snoop on us via these Hubs. Maybe they can sell the data obtained, who knows? Their has got to be a reason for it other than the half baked standardised hardware for support purposes. VM have practically no readily accessable customer facing support that you can have a meaningful conversation with anyway.

So c'mon Guys bin all these underperforming Hub's, save yourselves a small fortune by only supplying us with Modems.

General Maximus · 31-08-2012, 19:12

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

I would welcome a new hub been made by Samsung as in the past the Samsung V+ was the best version.

me too. When it comes to networking you think or Motorola and Cisco as the big names but given Samsungs reputation for technology with mobile phones and tvs etc I would definitely be willing to try a Samsung modem because I believe they are a company who care about the quality of the product they produce. It is all about having confidence in the brand.

Peter_ · 31-08-2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

I would welcome a new hub been made by Samsung as in the past the Samsung V+ was the best version.

I think some use of Google may have helped here as they do not manufacture modems so if an agent did say such a thing to a customer then they were lying, now imagine if it was their first attempt would you really want such a device.

Try Googling "samsung Docsis 3 modem"

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

I would definitely be willing to try a Samsung modem because I believe they are a company who care about the quality of the product they produce. It is all about having confidence in the brand.

I did expect someone to actually check if such a device actually existed but everyone just went misty eyed over a potential new supplier.

GrimUpNorth · 31-08-2012, 21:07

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

me too. When it comes to networking you think or Motorola and Cisco as the big names but given Samsungs reputation for technology with mobile phones and tvs etc I would definitely be willing to try a Samsung modem because I believe they are a company who care about the quality of the product they produce. It is all about having confidence in the brand.

And if Samsung did would it look something like this:

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Cheers

Grim

Peter_ · 31-08-2012, 21:11

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

And if Samsung did would it look something like this:

Cheers

Grim

As it is just a figment of someones imagination it could look however you want it to look, but external antennas would be nice.

General Maximus · 31-08-2012, 21:22

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but external antennas would be nice.

you wouldnt need them if it was built properly and I trust Samsung to do a good job

Peter_ · 31-08-2012, 22:16

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

you wouldnt need them if it was built properly and I trust Samsung to do a good job

As they do not make them why would the make one now, it was just an agent fobbing someone off nothing more, I would prefer a mainstream known modem manufacturer rather than a first time Virgin media bodge job.

craigj2k12 · 31-08-2012, 23:24

Samsung make routers and have made dsl modems so theres no reason why they couldnt produce a cable modem

I think the problem with vm using samsung is the age old problem of price

broadbandking · 31-08-2012, 23:34

Samsung is used for the TiVo boxes so prices can't be that bad.

GrimUpNorth · 31-08-2012, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Peter_

As it is just a figment of someones imagination it could look however you want it to look, but external antennas would be nice.

It was just a bit of fun - with the Samsungs ongoing fruity problems...

Cheers

Grim

qasdfdsaq · 01-09-2012, 04:53

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

VM are not alone in this, Sky and BE both try it on and there are probably other ISP's that I don't know about.

Neither Be or Sky *force* you to use their CPE and only their CPE though. In Sky's case the modem is separate and you can use whatever router you want (granted, it's difficult to find a compatible one) and in Be's case, you can use whatever modem you want as well. In fact many users have succeeded in replacing the modem on Sky Fibre with their own as well.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Samsung make routers and have made dsl modems so theres no reason why they couldnt produce a cable modem

I think the problem with vm using samsung is the age old problem of price

Tivo boxes have built in cable modems, so in a way, Samsung already make cable modems for VM. They're just integrated into a TV box instead of a router.

Peter_ · 01-09-2012, 08:15

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Samsung make routers and have made dsl modems so theres no reason why they couldnt produce a cable modem

I think the problem with vm using samsung is the age old problem of price

So you would happily trust a first time modem from a company that will allow Virgin Media to illegitimise the device as with the previous 2 devices.

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Samsung is used for the TiVo boxes so prices can't be that bad.

As above first time modem equates to piece of junk.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

It was just a bit of fun - with the Samsungs ongoing fruity problems...

Cheers

Grim

I knew that you were joking but not quite the same as the OP's original agent lying through his teeth in order to get him off the phone.

Why dream about a lie when we should be looking for them to buy a device directly of the shelf with no Virgin Media inspired firmware on the device and with decent wireless capabilities or just a standalone device.

Remember inbuilt modems are very different to standalone modems as they have to work by themselves as not as part of an integrated unit.

Sephiroth · 01-09-2012, 14:04

Whilst I agree with Peter that VM should take on a COTS device and not ponce about with vain exteriors and stupid formware, I'd just like to point out that a gateway is an integrated unit that has an inbuilt modem, an inbuilt router and an inbuilt switch.

It's just this piece of junk, the Super Hub, that VM have got entirely wrong in its craving to shave cost. VM are indeed paying the price for that. "Super Hub" is the oxynoron, not paying the price for shaving the cost (or is that a non-aphorism?).