General : Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by denphone

The clear reason that some channels are not on Virgin are one Sky's clear intent to withhold certains channels and their variants and two is their clear policy of asking ridiculous carriage fees for some of their channels as well.

Just like there are clear reasons Virginmedia withhold access to its cable network, typical anti competitive behavior.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Telly_

Look, Sky is the best UK pay tv provider.

Let the large players,BT talktalk build their content, and the small players Smallworld and Virginmedia cry to OFCOM because they are buried in debt and will never come to anything. Problem solved

Oh dear Telly why can't you come out with something constructive for once instead of your usual anti-Virgin ranting as the needle is getting constantly stuck on the record.

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Originally Posted by Telly_

Just like there are clear reasons Virginmedia withhold access to its cable network, typical anti competitive behavior.

As usual you simply have no clue what you are talking about.

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by denphone

The clear reason that some channels are not on Virgin are one Sky's clear intent to withhold certains channels and their variants and two is their clear policy of asking ridiculous carriage fees for some of their channels as well.

Evidence suggests otherwise

[denphone]

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

Evidence suggests otherwise

Really dear Lex you must take off those rose tinted glasses your masters supplies to you.

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by denphone

Oh dear Telly why can't you come out with something constructive for once instead of your usual anti-Virgin ranting as the needle is getting constantly stuck on the record.

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As usual you simply have no clue what you are talking about.

Ok, TiVo seems to be successful,the broadband in some of the fastest in the UK and Virginmedia offer HD for free that Sky charge £10.25 a month for. Although Sky offer more HD is it worth the extra £10.25. Virginmedia also include ESPN in the XL tv package where as Sky charge either £12 a month of £9 a month depending on your tv package.

I hope offcom find in favour of VM as Sky are robbing thieves over charging other providers to discourage a competitive market.

Is that ok Denphone?

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by Telly_

Just like there are clear reasons Virginmedia withhold access to its cable network, typical anti competitive behavior.

Whilst my position is that it's Sky's content, they bought it, they should be able to profit from it, I would have to just point out that withholding access from the Virgin cable network hasn't prevented Sky from being competitive in the market for any of the services that Virgin supply by cable. Given that Sky's dominance in the pay TV market has been built on it's Sports output, there is clearly a better argument that the withholding of this content is more damaging to competition than the withholding of access to Virgin's cable network.

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by andy_m

Whilst my position is that it's Sky's content, they bought it, they should be able to profit from it, I would have to just point out that withholding access from the Virgin cable network hasn't prevented Sky from being competitive in the market for any of the services that Virgin supply by cable. Given that Sky's dominance in the pay TV market has been built on it's Sports output, there is clearly a better argument that the withholding of this content is more damaging to competition than the withholding of access to Virgin's cable network.

Well when in areas consumers can get Sky and VM the difference in TV channels is minimal, VM get ALL Skys sports channels just not ALL HD.

But in the same areas Sky customers maybe limited to 3Mb BB where as Virginmedia customers may be getting 100Mb, How is that fair?

Virgin should be forced to open the network that passes more than 50% of UK households.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by denphone

The clear reason that some channels are not on Virgin are one Sky's clear intent to withhold certains channels and their variants and two is their clear policy of asking ridiculous carriage fees for some of their channels as well.

Clearly the CAT don't agree with yours or OFCOM's way of thinking , I'm sure they'll have been thorough in their investigation of the evidence.

Originally Posted by LexDiamond

And paragraph 29 clearly discredits Ofcoms assertion on which its whole case is based.

Indeed , I guess some skipped that section

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by denphone

Really dear Lex you must take off those rose tinted glasses your masters supplies to you.

Touche

PS: CAT is not my master

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Telly_

Well when in areas consumers can get Sky and VM the difference in TV channels is minimal, VM get ALL Skys sports channels just not ALL HD.

But in the same areas Sky customers maybe limited to 3Mb BB where as Virginmedia customers may be getting 100Mb, How is that fair?

Virgin should be forced to open the network that passes more than 50% of UK households.

Except, there is nothing stopping Sky investing in their own fibre network to give customers 100Mbit broadband.

However sports rights are a single shot thing. It's impossible for Sky's rivals to offer the same service at the same time as Sky - so they have to buy Sky's channels.

It would be nice if this thread manages to be conducted in a rather more mature manner than the usual VM v Sky threads.Let's be civil and avoid name calling,baiting and flaming.

Oh and let's stick to the topic as well.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

It would be nice if this thread manages to be conducted in a rather more mature manner than the usual VM v Sky threads.Let's be civil and avoid name calling,baiting and flaming.

Oh and let's stick to the topic as well.

Seems most threads end up being an argument about Virgin Vs. SKY these days. Must admit it's getting very boring and makes reading some of the threads in the Virgin Media TV section a real chore. In fact it takes some of the fun out of visting Cable Forum

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

It would be nice if this thread manages to be conducted in a rather more mature manner than the usual VM v Sky threads.Let's be civil and avoid name calling,baiting and flaming.

Oh and let's stick to the topic as well.

I agree, Ok its the "cableforum" so lots of positive comments about cable will be made, but it would be nice to Sky mentioned without certain members taking it as a personal insult and going in to a frenzy.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by Telly_

I agree, Ok its the "cableforum" so lots of positive comments about cable will be made, but it would be nice to Sky mentioned without certain members taking it as a personal insult and going in to a frenzy.

WTF

Come on people I have asked you all to stick to the topic.This will be the last time of asking.