General : Sky Sports & Movies price increases

[Telly_]

Originally Posted by Dave42

tell me which company been proved by ofcom on overcharging hmmmmmmmmmmmm oh yes it was SKY

I don't remember that , I do remember virginmedia were banned from advertising there broadband as best for gaming by the ASA. They found VM broadband was not good for gaming due to awful jitter and ping.

You will have to find me a link to the finding and proof that sky over charged.

Also......From June 2012

Two adverts from Virgin Media have been banned by the ASA, one was an advert on a sponsored search engine, and the second referred to advertising copy on the virginmedia.com website. In both cases the issue revolved around the speed doubling programme underway by Virgin Media.
British Sky Broadcasting challenged whether the claims:

1. "Cabled areas only" and "100Mb customers will see price-cut instead of speed doubling" in the small print in ad (a) was misleading and contradicted the main claim.

British Sky Broadcasting and two members of the public also challenged whether:

2. "I'm doubling everyone's broadband speeds" in ad (a) and "Richard Branson's doubling your broadband speed" in ad (b) were misleading, because exclusions applied.


Extract from complaint
While Virgin Media had consulted the copy advice people at CAP, who had advised that the phrase "I'm doubling everyone's broadband speeds" would be difficult to justify if the advert carried exclusions and the copy should have made it immediately obvious that the claims only applied to Virgin Media customers. It appears that this advice did not carry through to the final adverts.
The ASA upheld both of the concerns due to the exclusions, which were that existing 100 Mbps customers would see a small price cut, and Virgin Media National (ADSL/ADSL2+) customers would see no doubling at all.
The speed doubling is intended to take 18 months to complete, and confusingly for consumers, some see the downstream connection speed double, but the upstream speed does not. This is because the upstream speeds sometimes require further work due to the architecture of DOCSIS cable services.
As with many larger providers they rely heavily on claims from the Ofcom speed testing results, but the fact that this testing concentrates on the largest providers, and does not publish any results for areas like the Digital Region may result in consumers being less willing to sign up to new entrants to the market who may actually provide a better broadband experience. Is the maintenance of the existing duopoly an unintended consequence of Ofcom attempting to inform the speed debate?

[kop32]

Originally Posted by denphone

Perhaps because Virgin get Anytime sports content and Sky Sports interactive features that Smallworld does not get and one also suspects Sky itself is probably subsidising its own customers to a certain extent as well.

How dare they Den.....

Telly, perhaps this may refresh your memory...

http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2010/0...its-in-pay-tv/

Ofcom has concluded that Sky has market power in the wholesale provision of premium channels.

Ofcom has also concluded that Sky exploits this market power by restricting the distribution of its premium channels to rival pay TV providers. This prevents fair and effective competition, reduces consumer choice and holds back innovation and investment by Sky’s rivals.

Today’s decisions are therefore designed to ensure fair and effective competition which should lead to greater investment, innovation and choice for consumers.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Telly_

Sometimes it seems virgin are happy to constantly increase prices and let their customers blame Sky.

Really?

http://www.t3.com/news/virgin-media-...channel-prices

Virgin Media has confirmed it is to drastically cut the cost of Sky’s premium sports and movie services offering its subscribers an annual saving of up to £126

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Really?

http://www.t3.com/news/virgin-media-...channel-prices

Not for XL customers there has not, only ever price rises for me.

Well, I was an XL customer and I just saved over £11 per month moving to the Premiere Collection....

And the thread is about Sky Sport & Movies price increases.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I thought you would have known the answer to that - or are you just stirring it for your employer?

What do you think

What cracks me up is we all know he works for Sky but he does not have the balls to admit it himself.

[Leebee]

Anyone know if the VIP collection price will be going up to?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Leebee

Anyone know if the VIP collection price will be going up to?

The new prices are online http://store.virginmedia.com/bundles/vip.html

£93.25 + £13.90

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Sirius

What do you think

What cracks me up is we all know he works for Sky but he does not have the balls to admit it himself.

I thought blowing smoke up Sky's ass in this forum was his fulltime job

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...el-page-3.html

Post #36 tells you all you need to know about this guy and his motives.

[Emel]

Originally Posted by Chad

I thought blowing smoke up Sky's ass in this forum was his fulltime job

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...el-page-3.html

Post #36 tells you all you need to know about this guy and his motives.

All Telly is doing is annoying Virgin customers and making them less likely to ever join Sky!

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Emel

All Telly is doing is annoying Virgin customers and making them less likely to ever join Sky!

Totally agree

[Superblade7]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The new prices are online http://store.virginmedia.com/bundles/vip.html

£93.25 + £13.90

This is quite interesting as the gulf in prices has now doubled as the VIP now comes in at £107.15 (as per Ben's post) and Sky World with Phone, BB (ADSL) and a multiroom box will be £100.75 from 1st Sep.

Therefore that's approximately 6% higher with VM albeit getting faster fibre optic BB with VM but more channels & HD content with Sky. Previous to the price rise it would have been £103.90 for VIP which would have been 3% higher.

It really does make you wonder where VM's price rises come from as for Sky customers, Sky Sports Collection is going up by £1 (approx 5% increase) compared to VM customers going up by £3.25 (approx 14% increase).

So Sky customers will, at most, get a £2.50 increase this year whereas we've had an April increase, this Oct increase and no doubt a line rental increase later this autumn/winter meaning rises of £5+ for many VM customers.

Now I am only writing this as a comparison because it's interesting to compare. I am very happy with my VM services and have no real wish to switch to Sky although with the current economic climate, many customers on the VIP package who could make do with an average ADSL BB service may consider the switch to save £6.40 per month and get more channels & HD content.

My main thought in all this is that I believe that VM ought to consider moving to a model with one annual price rise and, if necessary, align this with Sky if they need to incorporate any fee increases in the Sky channels. This would make it much better and give greater clarity to customers as although the annual price rise maybe a little steep, it would not be the current (somewhat stealth method) of doing a larger increase in 3 smaller increments!!

Anyway, we may all be happy soon if Media Boy's reports of a number of new channel launches comes true as we may finally get some of the ones we've all been waiting for!

Superblade7

[yorkshireborn]

Virgin charge £25.75 sky sports pack

sky charge £21

virgin charge £32.75 sky sport / movie pack

sky charge £28

sky charge £10 for HD

virgin charge £7 for HD

then your VAT will be a tad more virgin

at the end of the day if you want it you'll pay it if you want it cheaper you'll move.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Superblade7

This is quite interesting as the gulf in prices has now doubled as the VIP now comes in at £107.15 (as per Ben's post) and Sky World with Phone, BB (ADSL) and a multiroom box will be £100.75 from 1st Sep.

Surely you should be comparing the prices with both having fibre BB? How much extra do Sky charge for that?