Jimmy Carr tax affairs 'morally wrong' - Cameron

[Osem]

Tackling the myriad of tax avoidance schemes would be rather like trying to stop a colander leaking using the fingers of one hand I'd have thought. If HMG is going down the prohibition route wouldn't it make more sense to make all forms of tax avoidance illegal with the only exceptions being schemes which HMG has specifically given approval to such as ISA's etc. Having said that, I'd imagine doing any of this in a retrospective manner is going to result in a whole load of protracted, complex and extremely expensive legal cases which HMG has no guarantee of winning.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Then vote for the government that will follow the economic policies you want..

I wish there were one

[Taf]

There's been quite a bit of noise on this subject recently... maybe it's all a propaganda build-up to HMG having a go at the Channel Island's tax status?

They've already had a go at the VAT "dodge" between UK buyers and Channel Island vendors.

[gazzae]

So after singling out Jimmy Carr why does the PM refuse to comment on Gary Barlow?

[dave6x]

Originally Posted by gazzae

So after singling out Jimmy Carr why does the PM refuse to comment on Gary Barlow?

Because Gary Barlow is a Tory supporter with whom he campaigned at the last election!!!!

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by dave6x

Because Gary Barlow is a Tory supporter with whom he campaigned at the last election!!!!

Surely it must be just a coincidence that the one he refuses to comment on is a Tory supporter.

[dave6x]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Surely it must be just a coincidence that the one he refuses to comment on is a Tory supporter.

Hmmmm maybe? NOT!

I'm just waiting for the hit list to appear in the press when they've done the digging into the tax affairs of the "great & good"!!!!

I think Cameron will regret this latest bit of knee-jerk politics, and it will definately come back to bite him!

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by gazzae

So after singling out Jimmy Carr why does the PM refuse to comment on Gary Barlow?

Because David is an idiot. a hypocrite, and Barlow's mate.

Just in from 38 Degrees:-

Dear Michael,

Tax-dodging is back in the headlines. A public outcry has forced comedian Jimmy Carr to apologise for using a tax-dodging scheme. David Cameron was quick to label him “morally wrong”. But instead of lecturing celebrities on ethics, shouldn’t the Prime Minister be fixing our broken tax system?

Together, we can tell him that actions speak louder than words: we want a strong tax-dodging law that means everyone pays their fair share.

Can you add your name to the petition calling for a stronger tax-dodging law? If 100,000 of us add our names in the next 48 hours, we’ll publish a massive ad in a national newspaper telling David Cameron it’s time to fix our broken system.
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/ban-tax-dodging

There’s overwhelming evidence that public pressure has worked so far. 38 Degrees members and groups like UK Uncut have put tax-dodging on the government’s agenda. There was a time when politicians were silent on this issue - together, we’ve shifted them from silence to speeches and hand-wringing. We know that more pressure can push them further.

Tax-dodging is a massive problem, costing the country billions of pounds a year. The government claims to be taking the issue seriously but tax experts aren’t convinced. They say that the proposed law changes are far too weak. What we really need is a strong, effective anti-avoidance principle.

Jimmy Carr has this week become the face of tax-dodging. But this isn’t about celebrities. This is about a tax system that is routinely abused by corporates and the wealthy. David Cameron could sort it out with a powerful new law. But he’ll only do that if he sees that public anger is growing. [B]Our petition, published as a huge newspaper ad, can be a big part of that.https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/ban-tax-dodging

Thanks for being involved,

Marie , David T, Hannah, James, David, Cian, Becky, Belinda and the 38 Degrees team


PS: Here’s what Sarah Hurley, a 38 Degrees member said on Facebook: “Carr only did what a lot of people would do, and probably just followed his accountant's advice. If Cameron thinks tax-dodging is so wrong he needs to close the loop-hole, then have a good look at multi-national companies who fail to pay a lot more tax than one TV comedian.” If you agree, add your name: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/ban-tax-dodging

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18521468



and yet...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ens?CMP=twt_gu



Hmm! I'm sure someone will be along to inform me as to why the two cases are not the same.

Just a long line of Tory supporters who are fleecing the HMRC.

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Originally Posted by gazzae

So after singling out Jimmy Carr why does the PM refuse to comment on Gary Barlow?

Because Cameron is a idiot.

This whole episode was wrong and personally although not a fan of jimmy carr he had the right to privacy in his tax affairs with any wrong doing being sorted out by hmrc not by david cameron singling him out. Is it morally wrong to avoid tax i personally don't know having never been in ther position to consider it i am not going to pass judgement to be honest because if i were to find myself in that position i am not sure i wouldn't do the same and neither can any of us till we are in that situation.

What has disgusted me is the singling out of one person whilst so many others have skipped by on the issue and if cameron was going to name one he should have either named them all or printed the whole list on the net for the public to see. Why is it this government manages to hit out at all the wrong people all the time when even when they complain about something there are plenty of torys doing the same thing getting a bit sick and tired of it and i speak as a natural tory although my brand of toryism is the one where people get whatever they need to help themself and a safety net is there for those who cannot i am not a supporter of the current kick the teeth in of anything we don't like toryism that is prevelent these days.

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Because Cameron is a idiot.

Priceless.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Just a long line of Tory supporters who are fleecing the HMRC.

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Because Cameron is a idiot.

Don't leave the labour supporters out of this! *cough* Red Ken*cough*

[cookie_365]

It's the government that sets the tax laws.

They decide 'this stuff is legal, that stuff is illegal. This stuff you pay x tax on, that stuff you pay y tax on'.

I don't see what there is to complain about if someone works within the legal boundaries that the government sets in order to pay the least tax.

If it's 'morally wrong' then make it illegal, or shut up about it.

[LondonRoad]

There are far too many posts here calling Cameron an idiot.

STOP IT


Even us idiots have standards