100M : The Pirate Bay is blocked

Originally Posted by Blackened

Ugh. I wish people could ditch using this *******ised result of a horribly offensive, and mostly derogatory word

Oh what word do you suggest?

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Originally Posted by _wtf_

True, but I doubt most people would consider what cleanfeed does, with the exception of blocking NewzBin2, as censorship.



And yet if photographing a model, who one would assume not to be concerned over their privacy during the shoot, the first thing you do is ask them to sign a model release form and basically end the shoot if they won't. However, when photographing a wedding copyright of the photographs actually belongs to the photographer on the bais that he can sell you further copies. Government and privacy laws are basically to protect celebrities from the paparazzi nothing to do with protecting the ordinary citizen. In reality you need model and building release forms in case of claims of copyright infringement. This is an interesting read though it is 4 years old.

As to the point of new business models Banksy seems to have found a pretty good one

What the hell has privacy got to do with it? We aren't discussing privacy.

And yes Banksy has done well but sadly has broken the law/by laws to do so..so maybe he is not a good example..

[Blackened]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Oh what word do you suggest?

Good grief..

Originally Posted by Blackened

Good grief..

No seriously what word would you suggest to denote those who download illegal or protected products?If freetard is so insulting?

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by martyh

I've just bought a new laptop one of the first things i did was wipe the HD and install a download of windows 7 so that when i use it i don't get all the crapware that comes with it ,i don't want to be forced to use stuff i don't want the same applies for DVD's imo ,i do not want 1/2 dozen trailers i have to watch ,i can buy the DVD leave it in it's wrapper and download a high quality copy with no crap on it

More legal would have been to remove all the crap-ware and make a backup image of that; which is what I did

Originally Posted by carlwaring

More legal would have been to remove all the crap-ware and make a backup image of that; which is what I did

what's illegal about what i did ?

Nothing.

[Blackened]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

No seriously what word would you suggest to denote those who download illegal or protected products?If freetard is so insulting?

I'm not even discussing this, Maggy. If you disagree then fine.
Please don't PM me any more, I have PMs switched off for a reason. If it's not a moderating issue I don't see why you need to bypass that with mod priviliges.

Thanks.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by _wtf_

And yet if photographing a model, who one would assume not to be concerned over their privacy during the shoot, the first thing you do is ask them to sign a model release form and basically end the shoot if they won't.

Of course, that's actually nothing whatsoever to do with privacy and more to do with the model giving permission to use the images (her "likeness" I think it is called). Or possibly just some sort of contract.

However, when photographing a wedding copyright of the photographs actually belongs to the photographer on the bais that he can sell you further copies.

Well yes. They are being paid to take the photos after all. Though I agree there's an issue there.

Government and privacy laws are basically to protect celebrities from the paparazzi nothing to do with protecting the ordinary citizen.

None of which have anything to do with the two scenarios you described.

In reality you need model and building release forms in case of claims of copyright infringement.

Tada! "Model release form". You answered your own question there

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Originally Posted by martyh

what's illegal about what i did ?

Originally Posted by jempalmer

Nothing.

Indeed. Oh, apart from downloading a copy of Windows he didn't pay for.

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Indeed. Oh, apart from downloading a copy of Windows he didn't pay for.

that is so wrong ,anybody can download a copy of windows ,you just pay for the license key .The only reason i didn't take it from MS is because i would then have to waste a day installing updates

He didn't download a copy of Windows that he hadn't paid for. He bought a new laptop with a legitimate copy of Windows 7. However he didn't like the "customised" version that was installed on it, so chose to install a fresh version. He merely used his legitimate key to activate it.

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What martyh said

[_wtf_]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

What the hell has privacy got to do with it? We aren't discussing privacy.

It was in reply to

Originally Posted by Stuart

Actually, I don't think the copyright laws are the reason for that. The government has, over the last few years, changed various laws to give us more privacy. That is the reason for the waivers.

And privacy has been brought up a couple of times during this thread.

Personally I thought the thread was about censorship and privacy but it quickly turned into a discussion about 'copyright theft', which hopefully some of the participants now relise is not an actual crime or really even a word.

I wonder how the people who believe in the term 'copyright theft' feel about boot sales where you can pick up genuine DVD's, let's not forget trading standards patrol boot sales, for 50p and sometimes even less? Today I bought 14 DVD's for less than £10 have I broken any copyright laws?

Originally Posted by _wtf_

Today I bought 14 DVD's for less than £10 have I broken any copyright laws?

Shame on you ,i hope you went straight home and wrote some money out for the millionairs...err poor deprived artists

[AdamD]

Originally Posted by jempalmer

He didn't download a copy of Windows that he hadn't paid for. He bought a new laptop with a legitimate copy of Windows 7. However he didn't like the "customised" version that was installed on it, so chose to install a fresh version. He merely used his legitimate key to activate it.

I did something similiar for my dad, he bought a CompaQ machine, ultra cheap from Dixons I believe, they pre install SO much rubbish on it, it takes about 2 hours to remove it all and install all the windows updates, if you do a restore.

So I created a slipstream copy of W7 from my own installation disk, using the serial that's on the side of his pc, works a treat, plus it means it only has minimal patching to do.

Although now, we use Acronis true home to restore our pc's back to a bare W7 install, as it's free for anyone who has a western digital drive.

[_wtf_]

Originally Posted by martyh

Shame on you ,i hope you went straight home and wrote some money out for the millionairs...err poor deprived artists

Nope straight home and ripped them to the NAS.

I've not bought a new DVD or blu-ray since Sony removed 'Other OS' off the PS3.

Originally Posted by _wtf_

It was in reply to



And privacy has been brought up a couple of times during this thread.

Personally I thought the thread was about censorship and privacy but it quickly turned into a discussion about 'copyright theft', which hopefully some of the participants now relise is not an actual crime or really even a word.

I wonder how the people who believe in the term 'copyright theft' feel about boot sales where you can pick up genuine DVD's, let's not forget trading standards patrol boot sales, for 50p and sometimes even less? Today I bought 14 DVD's for less than £10 have I broken any copyright laws?

Buying cheap GENUINE DVDs at a boot sale is not a crime. However if pirated then it's wrong. You just have to be very very careful who you buy from.