Rowan Williams to warn of downgrading of religious education - Page 2

Sirius · 08-04-2012, 09:33

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Good point. I suppose a lot of wars and battles get mentioned then?

Its funny that the church are against war and killing but tell you god is on your side just before you move forward and blow the crap out of the enemy's tanks

I bet the other side say the same as well, God if it exists must be pretty confused by it all and might need a bit of that education

Russ · 08-04-2012, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Its funny that the church are against war and killing but tell you god is on your side just before you move forward and blow the crap out of the enemy's tanks

I bet the other side say the same as well, God if it exists must be pretty confused by it all and might need a bit of that education

With Religious Education, misconceptions and misunderstandings such as these will cease to exist

Angua · 08-04-2012, 09:41

Teaching about religion is essential.

It is the "daily collective worship of a broadly Christian nature" I would get rid of.

papa smurf · 08-04-2012, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Russ

So hopefully those people with spectacularly cock-eyed ignorant attitudes towards religion and faith may finally be educated about what is actually believed and written about in holy texts and not use what is written on the back of a beer mat on which to base their 'knowledge' of such matters.

what type of beer was stood on this mat -Bitter-?

Fawkes · 08-04-2012, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Angua

Teaching about religion is essential.

It is the "daily collective worship of a broadly Christian nature" I would get rid of.

Agreed, thatâ€™s why I voted for less in the poll. Less, but not none.
Structured leasons not those religious assemblies to teach about morals. Morality and religion are not the same.

Russ · 08-04-2012, 10:26

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

what type of beer was stood on this mat -Bitter-?

Going on some people's attitudes toward RE I'd say it's likely.

Sirius · 08-04-2012, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Russ

Going on some people's attitudes toward RE I'd say it's likely.

Oh good i like bitter

Mactire · 08-04-2012, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Russ

The issue isn't about religion (or indeed, atheism) being rammed down anyone's throat. Nobody is suggesting that.

Well that happened to me. I can remember being made to say "The Lords Prayer" every Assembly in Primary School. But then, that was in the late 70's. I dont know if they still do it. Probably not..seeing as Nativity Plays are banned from most schools now. I dont have much time for Religion.. and I dont want my children force fed it either. Science is much more beautiful to learn than listening to Fairytales from thousands of years ago. Thats where Religion should remain.. in the History books where it belongs. Just my opinion of course

**Hugh** · 08-04-2012, 10:44

Point of information - nativity plays have not been banned from most, if any, schools.

Fawkes · 08-04-2012, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Russ

Going on some people's attitudes toward RE I'd say it's likely.

Not many here seem to be against RE. But I agree that beer mats are not a good source of information, on any subject.
But you don't need to read The God Delusion to become an atheist either. The Bible did that for me before I got to the end of Genesis.
But that's my personal choice, which is why it should be in schools.

Mactire · 08-04-2012, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Point of information - nativity plays have not been banned from most, if any, schools.

Just a quick search Hugh.. Im sure theres loads more.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ne...p-1/index.html

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Poppy p perhaps your sons school didnt, but the majority of schools in and around London did,
This did filter out to to other cities and suburbs that were Local Labour run Authorities.
I seem to remember that even at one stage the harvest festival was banned

Sirius · 08-04-2012, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Mactire

Just a quick search Hugh.. Im sure theres loads more.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ne...p-1/index.html

Unfortunatley that paper is as accurate with the truth as the book at the centre of this thread.

Russ · 08-04-2012, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Mactire

Just a quick search Hugh.. Im sure theres loads more.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ne...p-1/index.html

You should know better than to use The Mail as a point of reference for these types of things. There is no evidence (other than "my mates once told me" types of stories) that nativities have been banned.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that agreeing to Religious Education means you are somehow giving validity to its teachings.

Religion plays such a massive part in the world that to hide from it is pure ignorance. It forms a central part to so many governments, policies, cultures etc.

If we as a country need to negotiate with another country for whatever reason then understanding its customs (which may well be deeply religious) is essential.

Nobody is suggesting that studying religion should involve indoctrination.

Gary L · 08-04-2012, 11:07

I love nativity plays with little children in. they're just really crap actors

denphone · 08-04-2012, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I love nativity plays with little children in. they're just really crap actors

Sorry but its lovely to see their lovely smiling faces Gary so it does not matter how they act to be perfectly honest.