Welfare bill becomes law: Cameron, your deceitful lies will catch you

[mertle]

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/newsroom/press...wp023-12.shtml

Notice again another news blackout this horrendous passing of the final hurdle. No because the media KNOW lies by the coalitiion passed from these hypocrites mouths. Bunch fascist crooks in power decided to put britian into 1930's Germany.

Should disabled peaceful protest to the royals for passing the worst bill in years to be passed.

It makes you sick whats going on how these bigoted I really want to swear destroying safety nets GENUININE DISABLED for those bigoted poster on here.

Could we try to provide more concise thread headers, please.

[Gary L]

Now it begins.
the idea is to get as many people off the highest paying benefits and put onto lowerpaid benefits. or to reduce the money they are paid by any means they can.

I bet the DWP are on the phones now "Hello, I want to have a quick chat with you to see if I can find a way of reducing your benefits"

'Notes to Editors' says it all.

No longer will it be possible to be better off on benefits than in work.
(if taking a job meant you were worse off, the obvious thing is to reduce what you were getting on the dole so that job pays more now)

a new £50 civil penalty in cases of claimant error
(loads and loads of fines then. we love fines. it's what keeps the country sane and running)

But then again, probably not....

[Taf]

I took my disabled son for his first monthly post-ESA assessment interview yesterday. It all went very well until the last statement:

"Bad things are coming for you with Universal Credit and Personal Independance Payments."

And the interviewer looked genuinely saddened.

Originally Posted by Taf

I took my disabled son for his first monthly post-ESA assessment interview yesterday. It all went very well until the last statement:

"Bad things are coming for you with Universal Credit and Personal Independance Payments."

And the interviewer looked genuinely saddened.

Sorry

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by mertle

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/newsroom/press...wp023-12.shtml

Notice again another news blackout this horrendous passing of the final hurdle. No because the media KNOW lies by the coalitiion passed from these hypocrites mouths. Bunch fascist crooks in power decided to put britian into 1930's Germany.

Should disabled peaceful protest to the royals for passing the worst bill in years to be passed.

It makes you sick whats going on how these bigoted I really want to swear destroying safety nets GENUININE DISABLED for those bigoted poster on here.

Remember to NOT vote Tory, Lib dem or Labour next time there is an election

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Could we try to provide more concise thread headers, please.

feel free to edit it for me then but there is sometimes you cant as there limit on what you can do which happened before on thread which got accused it made no sense you need to go text speak at times.

I am disgusted at royals for this openess of giving her subjects who need help a good kicking.

I am officially now no longer supporter of the queen she let down many many people. Lords can goto hell too for destroying many disabled lives. I hope the lot rot in hell.

One of the disgraceful moves in the bill was removal of the giving a crisis loan to those who dont realise think it was handout its PAID back every penny.

Then the propaganda media never enphasised this made it sound like free junket. People used it to get fridges, even new suit for interviews to look smart. These vunerable now got only loan sharks left to goto.

I found this website on pip alot disabled now organising the fight for there rights. Sadly some the charities got juped it still going on with styche. I would question who those charities where who supported proposals there background if they came from middle class did they ever have true support of the disabled. I am questioning everything think the whole thing smells rotten to the core.

http://wearespartacus.org.uk/pip/

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Taf

I took my disabled son for his first monthly post-ESA assessment interview yesterday. It all went very well until the last statement:

"Bad things are coming for you with Universal Credit and Personal Independance Payments."

And the interviewer looked genuinely saddened.

So very sad to hear this.

Sounds like you got good un there is some ATOS staff out there who are good but they overshadowed by the evil out there who dont do there job properly. Which throws the system into complete lottery.

Sad state affairs did you look at my I am spartan link there is PIP assesment link to DWP at the top. Its a second draft but will give idea what your up against.

Its clearly going to be aimed at dropping 50% claims someone posting underneath has to use a machine due unable speak said under this he would get paltry 2pts for this area of his assesment.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by denphone

And l am sure your pie in the sky ideas will be the solution to everything then.

There is no solution.
the country will have to suffer the consequences of Dave now.
a very high percentage of people are going to lose out. there will be no winners in this.

crime will dramatically rise. that includes violence and theft.
don't kid yourself and think this won't happen, it will.

Dave is the 21st century Hitler. and he won't stop till he makes sure that he gets talked about long after his death.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

No, but you and your friends might

At least we have friends

Anyway i bet we don't hear this after they have removed all the benefits " Good News tax payers we can reduce your tax now we don't pay out as much to the ones who need it most"

It makes me sick how they are targeting those who need it most

No doubt they will find some oil owning country to bomb and therefor waste any money saved on that

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Is there a dog in here? I'm sure I heard that noise before.



Just face it: The jobs are there and pay what the job is worth. If you don't want to work why the hell should I pay so much tax just to save your backside from an honest days work?

If you say "I can't live on that", then reduce your expectations. If that means you have to share a house with others in order to be able to afford the rent then so be it. It's what the immigrants are doing. If you want more money then better yourself. Don't expect the state to feather bed you just because you can't be assed to get up and do some honest work for a change.

Also the only dogs of CF are defenders of a failed economic, social and political system!

There are not many jobs there and very few of them are decent jobs, why should we be prepared to reduce our standard of living just for the sake of fixing the mistakes of the rich and powerful (whose lifestyles are getting better), all we ask is that real decent jobs are created, not the unemployed put into poorly paid jobs

It is not a question of “I can’t live on that!�, but “why should I live on that?�

What is the point of democracy and capitalism when our standard of living is not improving (which is what almost everyone care about the most), I fear that other people (more extreme that me) would answer that question...

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Originally Posted by denphone

And who are they?.

Anyone who complains about my ideas!

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Originally Posted by Gary L

There is no solution.
the country will have to suffer the consequences of Dave now.
a very high percentage of people are going to lose out. there will be no winners in this.

crime will dramatically rise. that includes violence and theft.
don't kid yourself and think this won't happen, it will.

Dave is the 21st century Hitler. and he won't stop till he makes sure that he gets talked about long after his death.

I agree that it will happen, but what will be the end result?

Certainly the Tories/Lib Dems/Labour will never be elected again

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If that means you have to share a house with others in order to be able to afford the rent then so be it.

That's a bit too extreme. what happened to a standard of living?

It's what the immigrants are doing.

They don't count for nothing.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Anyway i bet we don't hear this after they have removed all the benefits " Good News tax payers we can reduce your tax now we don't pay out as much to the ones who need it most"

It makes me sick how they are targeting those who need it most

No doubt they will find some oil owning country to bomb and therefor waste any money saved on that

On that argument I 100% agree with you on this one

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I agree that it will happen, but what will be the end result?

Total mayhem. suicides. rioting.

then the radical change will come.
because it has to.