Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
29-12-2011, 12:40
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Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
I have a V plus box on my main set and an HD box on my second. I want to receive terrestrial channels only on a third set. If I connect the virgin cable to the aerial socket on the set will it work as an aerial?
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29-12-2011, 12:44
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
I don't think the analogue channels are sent over the VM cable any more, so unless you had a TV with a DVB-C tuner built in I doubt it.
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29-12-2011, 12:50
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by Lew
I don't think the analogue channels are sent over the VM cable any more, so unless you had a TV with a DVB-C tuner built in I doubt it.
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Thanks
Excuse my ignorance but what, other than a cable box, could I connect between the cable and the third set to receive a basic signal?
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29-12-2011, 13:04
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
Nothing..
Only a VM cable box supplied by VM will work with VM cable
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29-12-2011, 15:37
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by John Marsden
Thanks
Excuse my ignorance but what, other than a cable box, could I connect between the cable and the third set to receive a basic signal?
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As Kymmy says, nothing. There's nothing on VM's cables any more except digital cable TV channels that require the use of a digital cable box.
If you want basic free telly on your third set, you need to go for Freeview, if you have a redundant TV aerial on your roof, or, if you have an unused satellite dish, you could go for Freesat instead.
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30-12-2011, 13:53
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
Your only cable option is to plug an old video recorder (or similar) into the scart socket on the back of one of the boxes and feed the aerial output from the video to your third TV.
This would let you relay the channel being watched (or whatever you play on the video) to the third TV.
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31-12-2011, 16:54
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
Or get a digisender from Argos for £25, the ATI one on there works fine for me. Also you can buy and try from Argos if it doesn't work for you take it back under their moneyt back guarantee.
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01-01-2012, 23:00
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
it would cost you about 150 for a new ariel and around 90 to put a extenstion on to a old arial, no you cant get freeview channels via plugging the cable wire into ypur ariel port, you will need a viewing card for a 3rd box, unless you want less channels then what you geton freeview
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04-01-2012, 10:34
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by marlot
Your only cable option is to plug an old video recorder (or similar) into the scart socket on the back of one of the boxes and feed the aerial output from the video to your third TV.
This would let you relay the channel being watched (or whatever you play on the video) to the third TV.
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Huh?  Sounds a bit Heath Robinson for what's required.
My Pace Di4000-N V Box has an RF out socket on it, although perhaps later V+ or V HD boxes do not. In any case, that's probably not what John needs, simultaneous viewing of what's on in another room. I think he really wants independent access to the basic channels.
Is anyone in an area where they can receive DVB-T (Freeview) on a set-top aerial? I'm hoping to try it next week when I borrow a Freeview box from my in-laws. Otherwise I'll need to put up a new roof-top aerial or aerials. I'm positioned nicely to receive at least three regions and possibly more. The old analogue aerials were taken down some years ago rather than performing essential maintenance on them.
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04-01-2012, 11:29
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
Only the older SA V+ boxes have an RF output, the Sammy V+'s don't. Plus many new TV's don't have an analogue tuner now, only digital, so would not be able to receive the box output anyway.
Set top aerials for Freeview are OK in strong signal areas, but pretty useless everywhere else.
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04-01-2012, 13:39
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle
My Pace Di4000-N V Box has an RF out socket on it
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That is a bit of an antique and should really be upgraded, does it run on steam.
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04-01-2012, 14:15
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by nodrogd
Only the older SA V+ boxes have an RF output, the Sammy V+'s don't. Plus many new TV's don't have an analogue tuner now, only digital, so would not be able to receive the box output anyway.
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I'd imagine that the majority of TVs in use, by a huge margin, still have analogue tuners and I doubt that John wants the terrestrial channels for his 2012 model, 50-inch, flat panel, HD, 3D TV that he uses as his third set.
Perhaps John can qualify his original post to give us a better idea of what he wants to achieve so that we can better assist.
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Originally Posted by nodrogd
Set top aerials for Freeview are OK in strong signal areas, but pretty useless everywhere else.
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Er, yeah, as one would expect which is why I asked "Is anyone in an area where they can receive DVB-T (Freeview) on a set-top aerial?" just to get an idea of how rare or common it is.
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Originally Posted by Masque
That is a bit of an antique and should really be upgraded, does it run on steam. 
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No steam, I've converted it to run on bio-fuel. I bet it's not the oldest box out there though. I expect there are 1000s and others of that ilk still in use and holding back the V Box EPG due to their memory and CPU limitations. My ex-NTL Di4000-N had a three day EPG before we merged with 'those' people. Now we have the lowest common denominator EPG in order to support the decrepit kit from other areas.
Does anyone know who has what? Can the network tell what boxes are out there?
So, Masque, send me something better as a self-install and take one more vintage box off the cable.
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04-01-2012, 14:20
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle
So, Masque, send me something better as a self-install and take one more vintage box off the cable. 
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Ring in with a fault and get an engineer out job done.
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04-01-2012, 14:43
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle
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It works just fine for me!
I can't be bothered fitting an aerial (would have to be 15 feet above the roof level where I live), so it gives me a signal to the kitchen TV. And if the main TV is being used for bluray, the virgin box can be tuned to whatever channel the person in the kitchen wants to watch.
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04-01-2012, 17:52
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Re: Terrestrial channels via VM cable?
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Originally Posted by Masque
That is a bit of an antique and should really be upgraded, does it run on steam. 
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Typical call centre response, it's not an obsolete box and us techs are told not to swap them unless faulty, we get measured on box swaps
---------- Post added at 16:52 ---------- Previous post was at 16:50 ----------
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Originally Posted by Masque
Ring in with a fault and get an engineer out job done.
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Engineer finds no fault, job not done
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