100M Small Download Speed Upgrade - Page 6

BenJSmyth · 15-12-2011, 21:29

New config has been applied here near Crawley too. Had to reboot the Superhub for the change to happen.

Rob King · 15-12-2011, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Rob King

not been updated yet

Max Traffic Rate 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps

rebooted tonight

110000000 bps

but still can't get over 97 mb on a speedtest

Ignitionnet · 16-12-2011, 09:12

I do so love giving you guys these gems, especially when they relate to upgrades of 100Mb, when I don't even have 5Mb upstream available to me yet

The network will be in a position to support 200Mb services once upstream bonding is enabled. All areas on 4 downstreams will have sufficient downstreams available, subject to licencing, to go to 8 downstreams. This is enough to adequately support 200Mb so long as nodes aren't too large. The additional downstreams are supplied through a combination of new line cards and rearrangement of EQAMs.

roughbeast · 17-12-2011, 07:43

Good to see my performance graph step up a notch or two.

The upload speed is rather variable and somewhat disappointing. It would be good to see the config changed for that too, so we can truly get 10:1.

http://www.speedtest.net/results.php...19fca2d4&ria=0

Meanwhile how about joining the speed wave!

http://www.speedtest.net/wave/e1169e1735a7c94d

Ignitionnet · 17-12-2011, 08:16

No point from VM's angle in upgrading the upstream, they're struggling enough to supply 10.24Mb/s and it's not advertised so not subject to the same regulations.

I would join your speed wave but I'm not sure if my 53Mb downstream would help and my 1.75Mb up definitely wouldn't.

roughbeast · 17-12-2011, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

No point from VM's angle in upgrading the upstream, they're struggling enough to supply 10.24Mb/s and it's not advertised so not subject to the same regulations.

When VM rolls out 8 downstream channels should they also be increasing the upstream channels to 2? My >350Mb trial modem had 8 channels down and 2 up. Upstream was configured to 25Mb. This gave me 24Mb up.

Right now the upstream is not very consistent. As you say VM seem to be struggling to deliver. Two up channels would spread the load, would they not? Surely they would have to be capable of finding an extra channel up when they roll out 200Mb/20Mb.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I would join your speed wave but I'm not sure if my 53Mb downstream would help and my 1.75Mb up definitely wouldn't.

13 folk have joined the speed wave so far. Your connection would be one of the better ones.............. apart from your upstream.

Rob King · 17-12-2011, 21:29

i' m getting 104 mb download on speedtest but no faster than 9.4mb upload any one know if virgin media was upgrading the upload speeds too ?

roughbeast · 17-12-2011, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Rob King

i' m getting 104 mb download on speedtest but no faster than 9.4mb upload any one know if virgin media was upgrading the upload speeds too ?

Check 2 comments above this one.

Ignit usually knows.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35346870-post80.html

Ignitionnet · 17-12-2011, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Rob King

i' m getting 104 mb download on speedtest but no faster than 9.4mb upload any one know if virgin media was upgrading the upload speeds too ?

Yes I know, and no they aren't.

Zee · 17-12-2011, 21:50

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

Speed Upgrades.

This is my guess

10MB > 20MB
30MB > 40MB
50MB > 60MB
100MB stays the same
New tier of 200MB in 2012

Its more likely

10+20 goes to 30
30 goes to 60
50 gets upgraded to 100, 100 stays the same and possibly a new service in 2012.

Ignitionnet · 17-12-2011, 21:57

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

When VM rolls out 8 downstream channels should they also be increasing the upstream channels to 2? My >350Mb trial modem had 8 channels down and 2 up. Upstream was configured to 25Mb. This gave me 24Mb up.

Right now the upstream is not very consistent. As you say VM seem to be struggling to deliver. Two up channels would spread the load, would they not? Surely they would have to be capable of finding an extra channel up when they roll out 200Mb/20Mb.

There's already a second channel in most areas and a third in some, these aren't yet bonded though.

The standard configuration seems to be 45.8MHz, 35.8MHz and 27.4MHz.

Andrewcrawford23 · 18-12-2011, 20:24

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

No, once the 100mb upgrades are done it will only be ready for 100mb, further upgrades are required for proper 200mb. Even more upgrades and a new CPE are required for 400mb.

The total capacity they're putting in per area for 100mb is only 200mb. Not even close for 1.5Gb, most of their current network isn't even remotely capable of handling that.

the 200 and 400mb trails are being done in the same areas that have the same upgrade as what getting done and if virgin didnt future proof it then there dum because they need ot pay mroe money out, i think yoru right about 1.5gb as it ina one area trial and using a different configuration

Chrysalis · 19-12-2011, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I do so love giving you guys these gems, especially when they relate to upgrades of 100Mb, when I don't even have 5Mb upstream available to me yet

The network will be in a position to support 200Mb services once upstream bonding is enabled. All areas on 4 downstreams will have sufficient downstreams available, subject to licencing, to go to 8 downstreams. This is enough to adequately support 200Mb so long as nodes aren't too large. The additional downstreams are supplied through a combination of new line cards and rearrangement of EQAMs.

how will you know its enough, based on what?

its not based on the 100mbit data.

what happens if the node is too large.

simply put its enough as long as either noone actually signs up for 200mbit or if they do sign up they dont do any sort of sustained downloading at the same time as high utilisation periods.

Your info of whats going on is appreciated however your extra comments seem very out of touch with reality.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

There's already a second channel in most areas and a third in some, these aren't yet bonded though.

The standard configuration seems to be 45.8MHz, 35.8MHz and 27.4MHz.

given that upstream is already stretched in significant numbers of areas, how are you confident simply bonding existing highly utilised channels will handle 20mbit upload speeds?

its logical to assume double burst needs double capacity.

roughbeast · 19-12-2011, 18:11

Good questions Chrysalis. Ignit's answers will be useful.

My >300Mb trial modem had two bonded channels up and 8 down. I don't understand, yet, the significance of the bonded bit.

Chrysalis · 19-12-2011, 18:15

Unfortenatly i dont expect an answer.

Interesting info from yourself that in your trial VM were capable of bonding many months ago yet never rolled it out yet. The main significance of the bonding is that the 200mbit service will have a 20mbit upload and the upstream channels are only 18mbit in capacity. So to allow 20mbit it needs 2 or more of the channels. However my concerns relate to overall capacity of these channels as I highly suspect not too many areas have 20mbit of unutilised bandwidth available on existing channels.