TiVo General TiVo Discussion Part 2 - Page 434

devilincarnate · 15-12-2011, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Indeed, it's like working in a faults call centre and saying all you ever deal with is faults, so the product must be faulty.

I did that I worked for O2 when the I-Phone came out

Digital Fanatic · 15-12-2011, 19:08

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

Thanks DF.

Am i right in saying the BBCi App will include Digital Text , Live streams and it will actually be better than the current BBC red button on the Virgin Media legacy boxes ?

Not sure on the exact details

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

I did that I worked for O2 when the I-Phone came out

eek!

Lew · 15-12-2011, 19:26

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

Does anyone know how the red button will work on BBC channels when the BBCi App is added ?

because at the moment it goes staright to BBC iplayer app that will have to be changed.

When you press the red button when the BBCi App is added when will there be some sort of menu so you can choose which app you want to go into ?

I imagine it would probably work the same way the red button on ITV1 currently works.

devilincarnate · 15-12-2011, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Lew

I imagine it would probably work the same way the red button on ITV1 currently works.

Why does the ITV red button on TiVo work on your box

BenMcr · 15-12-2011, 20:10

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Why does the ITV red button on TiVo work on your box

Because it was used for X Factor voting

devilincarnate · 15-12-2011, 20:13

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Because it was used for X Factor voting

Try to be funny

I will get my coat again.

zekeisaszekedoes · 15-12-2011, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

YMMV Issue - was referring to Tivo generally not just iplayer, it is definitely NOT the finished product by a long stretch. Just go over the VM Support forum and catch the thread on those returning Tivo's

The thing is, several iterations of TiVo with various aspects of the bugginess/slowness that the VM TiVo has were released as allegedly "finished products" in the States. I guess that's why TiVo has never really taken off there, and why they barely turn a profit if they're lucky. Should have got us moany Brits on board earlier to pick holes in the design so that it might be improved.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Express Links - agree a good idea but badly implemented for several reasons one of which you mentioned namely user configurable; back to back padding implications also has to be addressed, it is worse than what the Sky box does on this, see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...-O/td-p/913291

Yeah I don't like the wasteful two tuner approach with back-to-back shows either which is why I try to avoid padding, but I've noticed BBC Three are about three to five minutes behind schedule almost all the time, like it's being run by interns or something. At least that way the two (or more?) episodes are in their own contiguous files, even if both files have some crossover in terms of content (last five minutes of one is first five minutes of t'other).

The only way I can see to remedy that is to let the first recording over-run by the correct amount of padding, start the second one late by that amount of padding and then take the padding part of the first one and append it to the second one. Expecting the TiVo to remux files while also recording seems a little much at this stage though.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Overall I do like Tivo though so don't get me wrong here when I do criticize it. Just don't want VM to take their focus away from progressively improving it. 15.2 update can only be the start and it is not just about new features but improving what is there already.

Agree wholeheartedly, but Virgin Media have to serve two masters here - those who want refinements and those who want new features. Plus those in the middle of the two camps, like myself.

It's just a shame regular customers can't beta test and feedback directly to the developers... I'd be more than happy to document bugs and suggest features and I know I'm not alone there.

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Originally Posted by Lew

I'm pretty sure that if you go to any support forum you'll get a skewed view as most of the people posting will be the ones with problems. You can't use a support forum as a basis of the quality of a product.

So true. It's easy to get this insular vision when a bunch of people in the same situation get together, distorting the facts between themselves so it appears that the problem is much more widespread than it actually is. Human psychology, eh?

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Back to the red button issue though, I can't see the TiVo app versions ever working as transparently as they do on the other STBs Virgin Media supports on it's network. To be fair to the American side of the development team, they don't have anything like that over in the States so doing something from scratch is a learning experience for them, plus testing must be a very protracted process.

Obviously being proved wrong on that point would be great, and the red button service will be flawless by this time next year.

Will21st · 15-12-2011, 20:58

I love my TIVO....

15-12-2011, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Lew

I'm pretty sure that if you go to any support forum you'll get a skewed view as most of the people posting will be the ones with problems. You can't use a support forum as a basis of the quality of a product.

Whatever the faults some people have with their TiVo box, it is not effecting demand, the engineer who installed my box on Tuesday said tivo install dates are now into February next year in the Luton area alone!

devilincarnate · 15-12-2011, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Will21st

I love my TIVO....

I do as well as it has some good holes at the back of the box

pythagoras · 15-12-2011, 22:13

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

It's just a shame regular customers can't beta test and feedback directly to the developers... I'd be more than happy to document bugs and suggest features and I know I'm not alone there.

Regular customers were invited to beta test and feedback directly to the developers. They were asked to volunteer at VM's community forum.

Regards

John

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 22:16

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Originally Posted by pythagoras

Regular customers were invited to beta test and feedback directly to the developers. They were asked to volunteer at VM's community forum.

Regards

John

I hope there is a beta test next year and Virgin Media ask people to volunteer.

borrissey · 15-12-2011, 22:38

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Try to be funny

I will get my coat again.

With the the quality of your jokes I'm surprised your allowed back

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 22:39

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Originally Posted by borrissey

With he the quality of your jokes I'm surprised you allowed back

Can you get a picture of Virgin Media TiVo slide remote which you " supposedly " got with your 2nd TiVo or were you lying ?

HD Boy · 16-12-2011, 09:22

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Originally Posted by Stephen

There will not be an update as there isn't any planned for the near future.

Really ? because Nick O said there would be feature updates very soon after latest TiVo update

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I just hope to set expectations because it seems that a rumour has been heavily perpetuated on this board that there is one all encompassing update to come. In actuality, there will be a large update, but other feature updates will follow very soon after this update (as their introduction had the update itself as a dependency).

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../708349#M17554

The near future also means very soon .