Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III. - Page 352

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 16:12

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

Pot, meet kettle.

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Have you read read how much he would pay for more channels.

He also said he would pay Â£10-Â£20 extra for Sky Sports F1 HD even those he already has Sky Sports and Sky Premium HD.

I would not pay 1p more for Sky Sports F1 HD.

He must be made of money.

It is likely going by what we have read it will be included in the Sports package.

Media Boy UK · 15-12-2011, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Well It needs to be increased by 20% just to maintain its current services, plus finance the world service and S4C which it has been forced to do, for extra or better services, it would need to go up even more

The BBC taking over the finance of all the things you have listed was due to the new deal their signs with the Tories and will last until late 2016 so the BBC cant put up the licence fee until after October 2016.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ozen-six-years

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

The BBC taking over the finance of all the things you have listed was due to the new deal their signs with the Tories and will last until late 2016 so the BBC cant put up the licence fee until after October 2016.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ozen-six-years

The TV licence fee is actually frozen at Â£145.50 until 2017.

Alan Fry · 15-12-2011, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

The BBC taking over the finance of all the things you have listed was due to the new deal their signs with the Tories and will last until late 2016 so the BBC cant put up the licence fee until after October 2016.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ozen-six-years

Can't they renegotiate that deal?

Media Boy UK · 15-12-2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Or they could just drop the remaining sport, merge the two kiddies channels and be happy with the millions they already get.

I have been calling on this for years but I think BBC Three and BBC Four need to merge and rebrand as BBC Extra.

That way the BBC can get some money in by selling off two Sky EPG Channels numbers.

Alan Fry · 15-12-2011, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Or they could just drop the remaining sport, merge the two kiddies channels and be happy with the millions they already get.

could they merge BBC Four with with cbeebies and BBC Three with CBBC?

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

I have been calling on this for years but I think BBC Three and BBC Four need to merge and rebrand as BBC Extra.

That was the BBC can get some money in my selling off two Sky EPG Channels numbers.

100% agree.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

could they merge BBC Four with with cbeebies and BBC Three with CBBC?

That does not make sense.

BBC Three could merge with BBC Four to become BBC Extra/choice

CBBC could merge with Cbeebies to become one channel.

The BBC is wasting Â£22 million on some crap called The Voice.

Digital Fanatic · 15-12-2011, 16:32

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

The TV licence fee is actually frozen at Â£145.50 until 2017.

I personally think the licence fee offers excellent value for money for what we get. Some of the best programmes are on the BBC.

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

100% agree.

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That does not make sense.

BBC Three could merge with BBC Four to become BBC Extra/choice

CBBC could merge with Cbeebies to become one channel.

BBC Three / CBeebies and BBC Four / CBBC are technically on 2 channels anyway. They time-share on Virgin Media and FreeView (no sure about Sky/Satellite) The technology allows them the have their own channel number.

HD Boy · 15-12-2011, 16:35

So in other words. There would technically only be on one channel

BBC kids progammes till 7pm then BBC Extra/choice after 7pm

Alan Fry · 15-12-2011, 16:35

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

100% agree.

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That does not make sense.

BBC Three could merge with BBC Four to become BBC Extra/choice

CBBC could merge with Cbeebies to become one channel.

The BBC is wasting Â£22 million on some crap called The Voice.

BBC Three and BBC Four are broadcasting at different times to Cbeebies and CBBC

They are also planning to remove Cbeebie and CBBC Content from BBC One and Two after the digital swichover

And Yes I would agree that The Voice UK is a big waste of money, The BBC does not need to compete with the X-factor as it has aready got a show that beats it!

Digital Fanatic · 15-12-2011, 16:37

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Originally Posted by HD Boy

So in other words. There would technically only be one channel

BBC kids progammes till 7pm then BBC Extra/choice after 7pm

There would be an outcry if CBeebies closed/merged, believe me

Felim_Doyle · 15-12-2011, 16:39

Yeah, I figured I'd get 'feedback' (backlash) on that!

Still, here comes my defence!

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

It was never changed, DVB-T (Freeview) had never promised to deliver HD television. DVB-T2 was then deployed for that exact reason.

Okay but HD-ready TVs with built-in Freeview were bought with the expectation by many that they would be capable of receiving HD without an external STB and they were probably sold on that basis too.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

The 'S' simply refers to the model having only upgraded hardware but the physical design of the phone staying the same. The S-less version of the phone still gets the same updates (up to a point).

Exactly, I meant that there was no hardware upgrade path. The S-less version may be able to continue to take software updates (up to a point) but it can't support hardware that it doesn't have but which a later revision of the same model does have. I'd be upset if I bought an iPad having been told that it was not intended to be an iPhone and would never be capable of connecting to a cellular mobile phone network only to find that within a few months a later model would do just that.

My understanding was that iOS could only be updated within it's ancestral line (i.e. an iPhone 3 will not run iPhone 4 software) but I may have to revise that view. The nomenclature of the software and hardware is very ambiguous and confusing.

Maybe the S suffix should be a $ sign.

I was a big Apple fan back in the 80s but I think the late Mr. Jobs is overrated as a great visionary. I think Apple stopped being Apple when it got too big and Woz left.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Refunds and bumpers were offered.

It just shouldn't have happened and is a poor experience for the customer. I wouldn't want a refund, I'd want the product I had paid for to work.

Also, I fail to see how plying me with automotive spare parts could be expected to appease me.

If you add it all up, the number of fixes to the iOS software and the problems with hardware indicate a poorly designed and (in-house) tested suite of products which have ended up being field-tested by paying customers and enhanced based on their complaints of the products' shortcomings. Isn't that the Microsoft strategy?

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

While I disagree with every example you've given, I understand the point you've made.

Your're very agreeable for a disagreeable old so and so!

To justify that all of that was on topic ...

My concern is that TiVo has been rolled out in a similar way to the iThing family of products although, so far, I'm not aware of newer hardware being released leaving those who forked out Â£250 up front high and dry with an inferior device. That said, I wouldn't want to have been an early adopter who paid a lot for a TiVo. Did they get refunds or freebies?