rail racism...

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by thenry

not racism but its rail related

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...Loco-hero.html

Update: The big guy's been named.

[Halcyon]

Briliant. These fare dodgers need to be eradicated from the country!

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Briliant. These fare dodgers need to be eradicated from the country!

Along with people downloading copyrighted materials, presumably?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Bet they felt awkward when they realise he did have a valid ticket after all.

Not as awkward as they'll feel being done for assault

He said he still has cuts and bruises over his cheeks (pictured above) and legs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ain-train.html

Note however that wee Ned seems content to talk to the papers rather than the polis.

[Gary L]

Just a few questions.

how does the old man normally deal with this kind of situation where there's a fare dodger that may be drunk, abusive, awkward, keeping other people waiting?

should more fat people get up and throw the person off the trains in this kind of situation?

do we praise the fat person for helping us get where we're going quicker, or because we don't like train companies losing money from fare dodgers?

is injury or assault ignored because of the circumstances?

is this the start of the beginning of the big plan of where society turns against each other?

[Derek]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not as awkward as they'll feel being done for assault

I don't see any evidence the injuries came from being removed from the train.

At the end of the day if the student wasn't being a drunken wee scrote or bothered to buy a valid ticket instead of trying to blag a return journey on a single he wouldn't have ended up being chucked off.

[Tim Deegan]

My mate told me about this yesterday.

Apparently the guard had called the police, but people were getting angry about the train being delayed. I presume this was before the film started.

Originally Posted by Derek

I don't see any evidence the injuries came from being removed from the train.

At the end of the day if the student wasn't being a drunken wee scrote or bothered to buy a valid ticket instead of trying to blag a return journey on a single he wouldn't have ended up being chucked off.

It doesn't matter ,David Cameron gave him persmission ,he wants a "big society" where people don't rely on the government so much and look after themselves more ,so now he's got it

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

I don't see any evidence the injuries came from being removed from the train.

He said: 'This big guy has basically thrown him head first on to the platform. Sam's landed on his face, and has a big graze

At the end of the day if the student wasn't being a drunken wee scrote or bothered to buy a valid ticket instead of trying to blag a return journey on a single he wouldn't have ended up being chucked off.

Hardly trying to blag a free ride was he and besides when I was last a regular train user the difference between single and return tickets was abour 10p.

Sam's uncle, who asked not to be named, claimed Sam did have a ticket, but it was the wrong one.

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

He said: 'He was sitting on the train when he noticed both tickets were for Polmont to Edinburgh Park, but he decided to concentrate on his exam and explain the mix-up to the inspector on the train home

I'd like to have seen the build up prior to the youth getting foul mouthed and fatso getting involved.

[Jon T]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Hardly trying to blag a free ride was he and besides when I was last a regular train user the difference between single and return tickets was abour 10p.

My journey every morning is two stops distance, East Midland Trains, a single is £2.20, return is £3.30.

Why is this guy getting his uncle to speak for him? Sounds the same as when I was kid and the local trouble maker's parents refused to accept that their angels could do anything wrong and that everybody else had got it in for them.

Pretty much reckon that the little scroat is after a payout from the railway company. Otherwise as has been previously pointed out, he'd have been talking to the police.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He said: 'This big guy has basically thrown him head first on to the platform. Sam's landed on his face, and has a big graze

What someone says on behalf on the foul mouthed drunk isn't the same as evidence.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

Or more likely student grant decided he could save £5.40 for drinking money and try and blag his way back. Why wouldn't a student who travels that journey every day not have a travelcard anyway?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I'd like to have seen the build up prior to the youth getting foul mouthed and fatso getting involved.

From whats been mentioned it was basically 5 minutes of the conductor trying to get the student to show him a ticket and getting foul mouthed abuse in return before someone starts filming it.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He said: 'This big guy has basically thrown him head first on to the platform. Sam's landed on his face, and has a big graze




Hardly trying to blag a free ride was he and besides when I was last a regular train user the difference between single and return tickets was abour 10p.

Sam's uncle, who asked not to be named, claimed Sam did have a ticket, but it was the wrong one.

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

He said: 'He was sitting on the train when he noticed both tickets were for Polmont to Edinburgh Park, but he decided to concentrate on his exam and explain the mix-up to the inspector on the train home

I'd like to have seen the build up prior to the youth getting foul mouthed and fatso getting involved.

Fine. If he has a genuine complaint he needs to go through the proper channels. These don't involve verbally abusing the staff and running off bitching to the papers.

Don't get me wrong. I've seen how petty some ticket inspectors can be. I've also had rows with them when I've presented them a valid ticket and they've refused it, but I've never abused one.

On a side note, both times I've had arguements with Ticket Inspectors, I was right. I have my travelcard on an Oyster card. I also keep a few pounds pre-pay balance on that Oyster card (in case I end up in the middle of London with no money). The way you use Oysters requires that if you are using the pre-pay balance, you touch the card on the reader at the start station and at the end station. This is called "touching in" and "touching out". According to TFL, it's optional if you are using a travelcard. Both times, they've complained because their reader was saying that I hadn't "touched in" my card, and they ignored the next screen which said I had a valid travel card.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Fine. If he has a genuine complaint he needs to go through the proper channels. These don't involve verbally abusing the staff and running off bitching to the papers.

At least he didn't assault the member of staff. from what I've heard the big fat man will have to be charged with assault if the yob presses charges against him. which is a bit unfair. but rules are rules. you can't break them willy nilly.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

What someone says on behalf on the foul mouthed drunk isn't the same as evidence.

It's about as good as what's been mentioned below then

From whats been mentioned it was basically 5 minutes of the conductor trying to get the student to show him a ticket and getting foul mouthed abuse in return before someone starts filming it

Originally Posted by Stuart
Don't get me wrong. I've seen how petty some ticket inspectors can be. I've also had rows with them when I've presented them a valid ticket and they've refused it, but I've never abused one.

I know there's a pretty good article on inspectors here and it's a tough job but also one that may attract the type of person that enjoys wheel clamping or traffic wardening.

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Originally Posted by Jon T

My journey every morning is two stops distance, East Midland Trains, a single is £2.20, return is £3.30.

May well have changed since my days of using the Cambridgeshire trains 10 years plus ago, back then I'd buy a return even if I was pretty sure I wouldn't be needing it as the price difference was so low.

Why is this guy getting his uncle to speak for him? Sounds the same as when I was kid and the local trouble maker's parents refused to accept that their angels could do anything wrong and that everybody else had got it in for them.

What would you do if it were your son? Take a video on face value or try to find out what happened for yourself, I know what I'd do but then I also know my son woudn't talk to people the way he did to without provocation.

Pretty much reckon that the little scroat is after a payout from the railway company. Otherwise as has been previously pointed out, he'd have been talking to the police

Possibly but for all we know they may well have been talking to the police, they have been informed after all.

A spokesman for the British Transport Police said: 'We have received a complaint of assault. We are investigating the circumstances surrounding the incident and our inquiries are ongoing.'