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Do we need a United States Of Europe
We have a member in the "Eurozone will collapse" thread who thinks that a United States Of Europe will cure all that is wrong with the EU.
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09-12-2011, 13:04
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
it wouldnt cure everything, like the united states of america doesnt cure its problems either.
however I would rather be in a united states of europe then a cut off lone island who has no friends.
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09-12-2011, 13:10
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
it wouldnt cure everything, like the united states of america doesnt cure its problems either.
however I would rather be in a united states of europe then a cut off lone island who has no friends.
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well said!!!
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09-12-2011, 13:29
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
need it or not, like it or not, want it or not, it will happen
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09-12-2011, 13:33
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
The simple answer is no.
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09-12-2011, 13:34
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
Breaking News
Apparently Eurozone leaders have postponed their talks on reform whilst awaiting the result of this poll!!
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09-12-2011, 13:40
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
I don't know if I should answer Yes Or No, because I don't know what a United States Of Europe is.
I'd say No to it sounding just like United States Of America though.
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09-12-2011, 13:42
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
We need a United States of Europe or Britain (and Europe) will fade into obscurity!
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09-12-2011, 13:45
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
I'll abstain on this one. It's too complex a subject for a Yes/No poll. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't want to put it to the British Public in referendum.
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09-12-2011, 13:46
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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We need a United States of Europe or Britain (and Europe) will fade into obscurity!
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Do you think that billons of pounds of our money should be used to prop up other countries then instead as is happening at present and that is money we will in all likelihood never see again.
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09-12-2011, 13:48
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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We need a United States of Europe or Britain (and Europe) will fade into obscurity!
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It's a tad late for that, and no idea what you think it would achieve but if you think it would arrest the terminal decline in % of world GDP you're wrong. The EU accelerated the decline, it's not rocket science what more integration will do.
When you mix something, such as a rich nation like UK or Germany, with a poorer one such as Greece or Romania, you don't suddenly get more wealth than either had before, you get the mid point as one funds the other.
You can already see this effect here in the UK from waves of immigration. Removing the fluff of unprecented public and private debt from the equation our real GDP growth per capita has been negative, immigration en masse hasn't made the UK richer, why would blending 27 economies have a different effect?
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09-12-2011, 13:49
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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Apparently Eurozone leaders have postponed their talks on reform whilst awaiting the result of this poll!!

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I dont think they will get the answer they want
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09-12-2011, 14:05
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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I dont think they will get the answer they want 
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You know what they'll do when that happens don't you - they'll want another poll!
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09-12-2011, 14:12
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
This poll remindes of of the ignorance dominant at the end of the Roman Empire, face it fools, Britain (along with other nations) as a nation is a utter and complete faliure, the only way to fix Europe is to have a United States of Europe, or India, China and Brazil will overtake us!
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09-12-2011, 14:19
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Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
This poll remindes of of the ignorance dominant at the end of the Roman Empire, face it fools, Britain (along with other nations) as a nation is a utter and complete faliure, the only way to fix Europe is to have a United States of Europe, or India, China and Brazil will overtake us!
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Nice to be called a fool but perhaps you need to open your eyes and see the current chaos and shambles in Europe at the moment as we are better off being on the outside looking in rather then being on the inside and probably facing the fate as some other countries have faced.
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