Riots - Page 85

ntluser · 05-12-2011, 06:36

The police are in an unfortunate position.Not only are they limited by lack of manpower,finance and resources but also by tactical options and by political constraints.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

If politicians had used some common sense and built the extra prisons we clearly need in good time, the police and the courts would not have to repeatedly deal with career criminals, who in the end, are given community sentences instead of the massive prison term they deserve.

Effectively, the police and courts are having to continually recapture and try these persistent offenders which is a massive waste of police and court time.

It is typical of this government that their lack of coherent strategic planning produces a situation where their reform in one policy area impacts negatively in another.

Osem · 05-12-2011, 06:45

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Originally Posted by Derek

It was all the fault of the police for being too heavy handed / not forceful enough

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/de...ed-riots-study

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-mobiles.html

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

Not Thatcher's fault then??

Airwave - another costly debacle?

Seriously, if these morons are now arguing that they were trying to make a point to the police then why did they spend so much of their time smashing up, burning and stealing the property of entirely innocent people and businesses in their own communities? Bizarre.....

Derek · 05-12-2011, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Osem

Airwave - another costly debacle?

Airwave itself is pretty good, having every force negotiating rates from a private company is a crap idea though. A centrally run TETRA network should have been used instead.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Seriously, if these morons are now arguing that they were trying to make a point to the police then why did they spend so much of their time smashing up, burning and stealing the property of entirely innocent people and businesses in their own communities? Bizarre.....

So Smashing up a shop isn't sticking it to the Feds then? I thought it pure wos innit?

Alan Fry · 05-12-2011, 11:32

Ultimately it was a combination of factors that started the riots, we need to fix them!

Osem · 05-12-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Ultimately it was a combination of factors that started the riots, we need to fix them!

Just a few! Youth unemployment, gang culture, education and penal systems that fail so many, defective parenting, uncontrolled immigration, a benefits system that pays some people who could work not to, governments who promised so much and delivered so little, amongst others.......

ntluser · 05-12-2011, 14:10

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Originally Posted by Derek

Airwave itself is pretty good, having every force negotiating rates from a private company is a crap idea though. A centrally run TETRA network should have been used instead.

So Smashing up a shop isn't sticking it to the Feds then? I thought it pure wos innit?

Smashing up a shop isn't sticking it to the people who make the decisions it's ruining the business of someone who is not only providing a service to the community but who is also a potential employer of the unemployed. It is shops and businesses who are clearing up the government's mess so destroying them is not very helpful and harmful to your job prospects.

The police are the ones caught in the middle. They have to enforce the law even if some of the government decisions leave a lot to be desired.

Riots just divert attention away from the fact that the government's plans are not working. Not only that they unnecessarily waste vast amounts of public money.

If people want to complain they can write to their MP, the local papers or to local tv and radio stations keeping the issue in the headlines. They can sign a petition or make a video and put it on Youtube.Or they can set up an e-petition on the 10 Downing Street website. There are lots of less costly and less destructive ways and more effective to get your message across.

People with a grievance need to become part of the answer not part of the problem.

21-12-2011, 20:16

for all those rioters that thought they had got away with it because it is no longer headline news and it all seems to have died down a bit and a few months have gone by so the cops will forget about it ..........think again

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Police have made 62 arrests as they target people suspected of taking part in this summer's riots.

Officers obtained search warrants for around 100 addresses across London and raided the properties in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16135001

Osem · 21-12-2011, 20:38

Here's hoping they have a very merry Christmas.

21-12-2011, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Osem

Here's hoping they have a very merry Christmas.

whatever they watch the queens speech on it won't be the 70" plasma from curries

devilincarnate · 21-12-2011, 20:53

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Originally Posted by martyh

for all those rioters that thought they had got away with it because it is no longer headline news and it all seems to have died down a bit and a few months have gone by so the cops will forget about it ..........think again

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16135001

I moved

Arthurgray50@blu · 21-12-2011, 21:31

And they will have lights out at 8-00

Alan Fry · 06-01-2012, 13:57

Will There be riots in 2012?

Gary L · 06-01-2012, 14:40

If there are going to be any in 2012, but I hope there won't. then I'd make a guess of Around spring/summer time.

denphone · 06-01-2012, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Around spring/summer time.

And why do you think that Gary.

Gary L · 06-01-2012, 14:50

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Originally Posted by denphone

And why do you think that Gary.

Because it will be a bit warmer than it is now. nobody likes to riot in the cold.