Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III. - Page 307

zekeisaszekedoes · 29-11-2011, 13:25

You know, it's been written somewhere that for each listen of a track an artist gets a whooping Â£0.00006 or something like that, so in fact Spotify is almost as bad for artists as Grooveshark or any similar free service, with the added insult of looking like the artist gets a good deal just because it offers a paid-for "premium" service.

passingbat · 29-11-2011, 14:13

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

You know, it's been written somewhere that for each listen of a track an artist gets a whooping Â£0.00006 or something like that.

That's the reason given for why some record labels (minor ones I believe) have withdrawn their tracks from spotify recently.

BenMcr · 29-11-2011, 14:22

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That's the reason given for why some record labels (minor ones I believe) have withdrawn their tracks from spotify recently.

Wasn't just Spotify - but that seems to go have lost in most of the reporting

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/...avelling/all/1

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Following a study that claims that streaming music is damaging to record sales, a distributor representing more than 200 labels has withdrawn its entire catalogue from Spotify, Napster, Simfy and Rdio.

passingbat · 29-11-2011, 14:32

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Wasn't just Spotify - but that seems to go have lost in most of the reporting

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/...avelling/all/1

That's true; I assumed that zekeisaszekedoes was refering to all legit music services, and just using spotify as an example.

zekeisaszekedoes · 29-11-2011, 15:02

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Originally Posted by passingbat

That's true; I assumed that zekeisaszekedoes was refering to all legit music services, and just using spotify as an example.

True - I would have mentioned other streaming services that do it but I figured it would be off topic since there isn't a client for any other than Spotify on VMTV right now.

It is staggering how some slow to respond record companies finally get a grip on digital music, tout it as "the future of music" and promptly make a mess of monetizing it therefore making little to no money.

devilincarnate · 29-11-2011, 15:29

MB any idea what has launched as the total number of channels has gone up by 2 ?

Alan Fry · 29-11-2011, 15:31

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MB any idea what has launched as the total number of channels has gone up by 2 ?

Boxnation (as a placeholder channel) was launched on 24th November but as of today the number of channels is still 301

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV

Felim_Doyle · 29-11-2011, 15:41

Down with downloading!

Bring back vinyl!

There were various claims made when CDs were launched about the price of recorded music coming down but in reality it went up. The original excuse was that a large proportion of the cost was the artists' royalties but in reality it was not. Maybe sometimes you are getting a few more tracks than you used to on a vinyl album but that varies.

I'm not sure how accurate this page is and I suspect that artists' fees are very variable but it has a couple of pie charts with a breakdown of roughly where the price of your CD goes.

I don't really do any music downloading although I have used the VM Music OD service but I guess that Spotify will be a very welcome service to many.

devilincarnate · 29-11-2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Boxnation (as a placeholder channel) was launched on 24th November but as of today the number of channels is still 301

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV

Been up at my Fathers today and after the place holder for boxnation was added it went from 381 to 382? Today it is now 384?

denphone · 29-11-2011, 15:47

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Been up at my Fathers today and after the place holder for boxnation was added it went from 381 to 382? Today it is now 384?

Yes same here Devil.

Felim_Doyle · 29-11-2011, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Boxnation (as a placeholder channel) was launched on 24th November but as of today the number of channels is still 301

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV

It's 366 channels / 48 streams here in Aylesbury (ex-CWC/NTL) on my old Pace Di4000-N but your experience may differ.

Media Boy UK · 29-11-2011, 15:56

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

MB any idea what has launched as the total number of channels has gone up by 2 ?

Sky Sports F1 and Sky Sports F1 HD? Only joking I have no idea.

But I have noted that my total channels by gone up by FIVE in the last few weeks but only Box Nation has appear on the EPG (November 1st was my last update until 2pm today).

devilincarnate · 29-11-2011, 16:00

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Sky Sports F1 and Sky Sports F1 HD? Only joking I have no idea.

But I have noted that my total channels by gone up by FIVE in the last few weeks but only Box Nation has appear on the EPG (November 1st was my last update until 2pm today).

Cheers MB for that I have noticed that channels have been added but not be able to work out what has been added apart from Boxnation?

denphone · 29-11-2011, 16:02

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Cheers MB for that I have noticed that channels have been added but not be able to work out what has been added apart from Boxnation?

Its time for you to don your Sherlock Holmes hat again then Devil and get to the bottom of this conundrum.

devilincarnate · 29-11-2011, 16:08

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Its time for you to don your Sherlock Holmes hat again then Devil and get to the bottom of this conundrum.

Or we could ask one of the staff to clarify?