UK unemployment increases to 2.62m

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

they are rich, but they are also idots

Mmmmm - interesting viewpoint.

"idot" - is that like an iPhone, but smaller?

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I think it is now time for this Government to resign and we should have a new election in 2012 or 2013or

we need to start some big infrastucture projects, increase taxes (for the rich most of all) and launch a state owned development bank for small, medium and large business based in britain

No Government for a couple of years????

What would Nick Robinson do?

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4

Why do they blame the Eurozone? I think they are just looking for a scapegoat to blame. The fact is business's here have no money to employ new staff because they are taxed to the hilt.

greece etc. been plastered all over the news has all been about one thing, blaming anything but ourselves for the problems. Shifting focus.

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Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4

I understand that, but we should cut fuel tax first, instead of anything else including corporation tax and income tax.

This I agree with and is one of the best posts gregarding tax I have read for a while.

Income taxes are efficient and fair and should not be cut.

Fuel tax hits everyone rich or poor badly and in addition it affects prices of good on almost everything.
Another bad tax is the stealth one on wholesale gas which is due very soon and will be responsible for upcoming price rises in that area.

At the same time tho tax isnt the root of all problems in the country, corporate greed is, companies like centrica laying off staff when they not struggling and other companies offshoring etc. We have a wealth distribution problem that no government will tackle.

[Kingofthedead4]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

greece etc. been plastered all over the news has all been about one thing, blaming anything but ourselves for the problems. Shifting focus.

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At the same time tho tax isnt the root of all problems in the country, corporate greed is, companies like centrica laying off staff when they not struggling and other companies offshoring etc. We have a wealth distribution problem that no government will tackle.

I agree. Not just corporate greed, all greed. People used to and some do still work for the enjoyment of the job, ie seeing the affect there job has on the people who are affected, most these days those just try and screw as much money out of the person or company they are dealing with as possible. I HATE and detest the culture of compensation we have now as that has drove up insurance premiums (and of course there greed), so pushing up the amount all business's have to pay out.

[Chrysalis]

True there is a lot of greed in just normal society now. Its infecting many people.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Income taxes are efficient and fair and should not be cut.

We have a wealth distribution problem that no government will tackle.

Income != wealth.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Isn't it about time that Cameron and Clegg lovers on this forum realise one thing, this country is in a total mess, far worse than what Labour ever caused.

We have unemployment at an all time high, and instead of trying to improve things they are not, Budget cuts are hitting hard, do we find the government saying right we will cut some MPs to save money and merge MPs to cover other regions, to save money, of course they won't.

Cuts have to start at the top, and that means MPs salaries, l have watched Parliament on Tv, and most of them are asleep and come out with silly questions which extend time in the house.

A few weeks ago they house was totally full when a vote was needed, and then the house was cleared, and there was a few MPs talking silly business.

The government have now gone on a short holiday to have a break, Soon it will be Xmas then they will have another holiday.

I bet when the strike happens, Clegg and Cameron will be out of the country.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Isn't it about time that Cameron and Clegg lovers on this forum realise one thing, this country is in a total mess, far worse than what Labour ever caused.

We have unemployment at an all time high, and instead of trying to improve things they are not, Budget cuts are hitting hard, do we find the government saying right we will cut some MPs to save money and merge MPs to cover other regions, to save money, of course they won't.

Cuts have to start at the top, and that means MPs salaries, l have watched Parliament on Tv, and most of them are asleep and come out with silly questions which extend time in the house.

A few weeks ago they house was totally full when a vote was needed, and then the house was cleared, and there was a few MPs talking silly business.

The government have now gone on a short holiday to have a break, Soon it will be Xmas then they will have another holiday.

I bet when the strike happens, Clegg and Cameron will be out of the country.

I think there is proposal to shelve some MP's I dont think its right to be fair.

Whats is needed is VALUE for money make these MP'S SIT more sessions.

I would argue they should get two options wage wise.

Minimum pay like us all paid on sittings in seat and constituency work and them claim with reason expenses to XX point.

Other give them XX wage but tell them everything comes out of it no claiming expenses.

Give them little top up for cabinet work we will see the END of gorging.

Do this with lords too.

[Ignitionnet]

The economy sucking is hurting Arthur, not the cuts.

In percentage terms, Labour cut spending as a share of GDP by 8%, or 2.67% per year.

The Coalition are cutting spending as a share of GDP by 13.8%, which, over 5 years, is 2.77% per year. Almost exactly the same as Labour.

I don't remember screams of 'too far, too fast' with Blair, the state was not grown at the same speed as the economy then. It's all about the economy and a good part of this is actually outside of our control for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J52BQFdPLJ4

EDIT: Oh yes and look at the numbers on the sides - however did we cope with the state only being 37.5% of the economy let alone the 34.7% it was in 2000 while we struggle with it being in the mid-40s and people are bitterly hurting due to brutal state cuts.

As I remember it we coped fairly well. Must just be me.

No, it's not just you.....