08-11-2011, 14:34
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by HD Boy
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I think cable can cope with way more than 344 channels hence the reason they were turning off analogue.
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08-11-2011, 14:36
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#242
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
where are they going to fit premier sports?
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They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.
2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.
Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migrated to tivo in 4 or 5 years time. That will free up space for more channels.
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08-11-2011, 14:39
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#243
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by HD Boy
They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.
2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.
Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migarted to tivo 4 or 5 years. That will free up space for more channels.
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so have many channels can fit into virgin media?
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08-11-2011, 14:42
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#244
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
so have many channels can fit into virgin media?
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It all depends on how many HD channels are broadcasting in 2 years time. They might not even be 80 HD channels in 2 years. They could use some of the bandwith which can not be used because they is not 80 HD channels in 2 years time for some more SD channels.
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08-11-2011, 14:46
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#245
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
where are they going to fit premier sports?
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They will make space by not having the minority channels that you want.
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08-11-2011, 14:47
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08-11-2011, 15:16
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#247
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by greeninferno
I have just had Tivo installed moving over from SkyHD
i would say the only advantage sky now have is the few missing HD channels they don't allow on virgin.
The Tivo box is streets ahead.
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Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November!
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Originally Posted by HD Boy
...virgin media can't add every +1 channels and every minority channels that exists on Sky...
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In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).
With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!
And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).
Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off!
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08-11-2011, 15:33
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#248
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by stereohaven
Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November!
In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).
With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!
And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).
Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! 
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  Can someone now close this thread please.
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08-11-2011, 15:37
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
There is no reason to close it.
---------- Post added at 14:37 ---------- Previous post was at 14:36 ----------
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Originally Posted by HD Boy
They will sacrifice a few HD channels to get other SD channels.
2 MPEG2 HD channels are carried on one stream and 8 SD TV channels can be carried on one stream.
Also when Virgin Media switch HD channels to MPEG4 after everyone has migrated to tivo in 4 or 5 years time. That will free up space for more channels.
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Am sorry but where on earth are you getting this 'info' from?
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08-11-2011, 15:40
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Mr. Berkett expects all of Virgin Media's cable customers to be on TiVo over the next four or five years
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http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy...w=1366&bih=522
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Today's news continues Virgin's big push for TiVo and also marks the online ordering death of V+ HD. The legacy PVR is now no longer available to order from Virgin's website. It was going to happen sooner or later, and its an important step towards Virgin's long-term plan to get all of their TV customers on MPEG 4 compatible hardware, which would mean reduced bandwidth usage for linear HD channels and hopefully, more HD channels.
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http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...n-fee-for.html
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08-11-2011, 15:48
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by stereohaven
Glad to hear it, my TiVo arrives on the 22nd November!
In my view, the only real reason/benefit to Sky having so many +1 channels is because it helps the Sky+ box as it only has two tuners. Having time shifted channels makes it easier to avoid recording clashes at peak times (for those that don't use the basic search facility and record stuff late at night/early hours).
With 3/4 tuners and on demand for the main channels this isn't an issue with Virgin. Well, I hope not, guess I'll soon find out!
And I repeat, the majority of these "minority channels" are available if you keep your Sky box (which is yours after all).
Can someone stop this merry-go-round please, I want to get off! 
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so can virgin do a 6 tuner box
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08-11-2011, 15:56
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
so can virgin do a 6 tuner box
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If this came to Virgin Media you would be able to record 4 shows at once while watching one you recorded eariler
TiVo announces 2Tb, four tuner box in the US
http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2011/09/tiv...box-in-us.html
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08-11-2011, 15:57
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
so can virgin do a 6 tuner box
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How many people would want to record 6 programs at once? Especially with catch up TV
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08-11-2011, 16:11
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan
How many people would want to record 6 programs at once? Especially with catch up TV
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some do
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08-11-2011, 16:16
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Re: Sky or VM for TV???
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
some do
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Go build yourself a Media Center PC, you can build yourself one with 24 tuners (8 DVB-S2, 8 DVB-T2, 8 DVB-C). Then you can record Argos TV all you like.
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