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				It will make no real difference as you would just receive whatever the orderpicker takes off the shelf and the technician has on his van, you will not be able to choose one over the other as for one thing they will look identical and have the same basic interface. 
			
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 By Stephen (OK, not a VM dude) in post #129
 
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				No, and even if they had you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two. 
			
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			25-09-2011, 01:35
			
			
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			It appears to me this is a third superhub, not one of the two mentioned before (net gear/cisco) and, tbf, do you think front line staff are kept informed of R&D contractual developments? 
( for instance, I am working with a few of my techs in some pretty cool stuff on virtualised firewalls, but 98% of my team don't know about it, and the others are under NDA   ).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2011, 01:46
			
			
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			Hugh 
 
When Masque puts himself across as authoritative on this forum (which those quoted words appeared to be), due credence is given. 
 
When his Lordship Stephen comes in confirming what Masque has said .... 
 
So now this is a third SH.  Maybe. We'll see.   As long as it's better than the wretched device that preceded it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2011, 01:51
			
			
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			I can't say what Stephen and Masque know, as our acquaintance is virtual, and I don't work with them (or anyone at VM). 
 
You make your views informed by your experience of the VMDG480, mine are informed by mine.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I can't say what Stephen and Masque know, as our acquaintance is virtual, and I don't work with them (or anyone at VM). 
 
You make your views informed by your experience of the VMDG480, mine are informed by mine. 
			
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 I take note of what users say, and now, most particularly, what VM have said about the memory leaks that have plagued the SH for nearly a year.  
 
That you can't bring yourself to criticise that sorry situation is not to your credit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			25-09-2011, 03:01
			
			
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			(scratch record) VM can recoupe their rep if they go all out and upgrade the firmware further. Without knowing for sure that their on it now when they have said "their going to take a break" just adds fuel to this joke of a business plan. 
 
can i ask why Ciscos, the daddy isn't dealing with the firmware?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Very informative Ben this made me look around a bit.... 
So I guess this WiFi certificate is also not a fake?
 Huawei's version of the Super Hub
Some interesting info:
 
Certificate Date:  July 22, 2011
Company: Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. 
Product:  Super Hub
Model/SKU #:  VMDG485
Is it worthwhile that the Huawei certificate also states:
 Optional 802.11n Capabilities
- Short Guard Interval 
- Greenfield Preamble 
- TX A-MPDU 
- STBC 
- 40 MHz operation in 2.4 GHz 
with coexistence mechanisms 
- 40 MHz operation in 5 GHz 
- HT Duplicate (MCS 32)
 
and 
 Special Features
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- Internal Registrar 
- External Registrar
 
Seems like the Huawei is already a more advanced device? At least it was in  July 
			
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 Well well well. STBC, MC32, and a proper 2.4Ghz mode. This could actually mean good range and reliability. A decent superhub in the making? Who'd have thunk it...  
 
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				They will use the same firmware. We know this. They will source their components from different places for resiliency purposes, we can guess that will be the case. 
			
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 If they use different components and have different features, they can't possibly use the same firmware.
 
Nor is Netgear likely to give Huawei access to their code.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2011, 09:59
			
			
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			Maybe the new hub will be for 100 customers and the current one for 50 and 30. I can't see that they'll have two differently performing units provided at random. If they do I think there will be an extraordinarily high level of failures of the lesser spec version. Certainly if I had been issued with an inferior one there would be a very high risk of it failing in service.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Exactly what is means, calm down, it was an error on my part and I said sorry to Chrys, no need to make a big issue out of it.
 
To be quite frank your constant 'wretched' comments about the SuperHub are getting bit boring now, we get it, you are not a fan, but you don't need to keep saying it.  I for one have had zero problems with my hub but I don't feel the need to constantly tell everyone about it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				In this forum the following was said: 
 
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 I am a VMdude. Check my sig, I have worked for VM for a long time. Since the NTL days.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				It appears to me this is a third superhub, not one of the two mentioned before (net gear/cisco) and, tbf, do you think front line staff are kept informed of R&D contractual developments? 
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 The is going to be 2 residential Superhubs but you will not have a choice as to which you will get.
 
I have actually taken the time to read as much as I can about the new Superhub but obviously that is something I am not going to post here as it is business sensitive information and all Virginmedia staff have the same access if they care to look on the intranet.  
 
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				Hugh 
 
When Masque puts himself across as authoritative on this forum (which those quoted words appeared to be), due credence is given. 
 
When his Lordship Stephen comes in confirming what Masque has said .... 
 
So now this is a third SH.  Maybe. We'll see.   As long as it's better than the wretched device that preceded it. 
			
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 This will be the second residential Superhub.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Had the new "ish" Superhub delivered Monday dinner, went thru the setup via the destructions, all up and running ok within 30 mins - and yes its an R30 I did look. - then to sort the neighbour thought i'd give wifi a chance thru my/his Tp WA730re extender rather than mess with APN's, direct line of sight to his flat and blow me 4 bars straight off, occasionally drops to 2 but as ive recently learned its usually best to ignore signal bars as there's no industry standard and if they light up then you have a connection. He's as happy as a pig in ****. Just to satisfy my mind which would give the stronger signal - wifi or change the Tp to an APN. No drop-outs, power surges, silly lights etc etc. 
Just the blue flashing one at the top is a bit bright in a darkened room   
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				Had the new "ish" Superhub delivered Monday dinner 
			
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 When you say neweish which model is it a 480 or a 485.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Just had a shufty -- its the 480
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Just had a shufty -- its the 480 
			
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 I do not think the 485 has been released as yet except to a select few triallists.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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