R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
13-09-2011, 18:51
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
Indeed. The 5Ghz channel bug needs immediate attention as all the spectrum is getting very crowded and if we only have 2.4Ghz and a fraction of 5Ghz available we'll be causing grief to our neighbours with ease. Is the new advertising campaign going to show the happy VM house from the last ad with the neighbour hammering in the door demanding they keep the digital noise down or else?
VM, we need this fixed a sight faster than you took over the last fix or cabled areas will be full of black eyes.
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No, the 2.4Ghz band needs more attention, defaulting to 40Mhz mode in 2.4 is far worse than having low access to 5. For one, it affects far more people. 5Ghz is a niche product - face it, who (in terms of average consumers) will have all 5Ghz devices and the brains to set it all up and work it correctly and has the balls to put up with the halved range? Hell even the latest and greatest smartphones (e.g. HTC Sensation) can't do 5Ghz. Possibly the only thing worse than what the SH already does is turning off CSMA/CA or transmitting white noise at full power.
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13-09-2011, 18:57
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
No, the 2.4Ghz band needs more attention, defaulting to 40Mhz mode in 2.4 is far worse than having low access to 5. For one, it affects far more people. 5Ghz is a niche product - face it, who (in terms of average consumers) will have all 5Ghz devices and the brains to set it all up and work it correctly and has the balls to put up with the halved range? Hell even the latest and greatest smartphones (e.g. HTC Sensation) can't do 5Ghz. Possibly the only thing worse than what the SH already does is turning off CSMA/CA or transmitting white noise at full power.
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I agree on the 2.4Ghz default, or I used to. Now 5Ghz has been nerfed we'll all have to go back to 2.4Ghz to run 300meg as it has more channels and so is less likely to disturb the neighbours.
Who has a 5Ghz setup? Well, how about every VM customer with a 50meg or higher connection? Since VM give you a 5Ghz dongle with the Superhub every one of us has the kit for it. It takes no more 'brains' to set up than 2.4Ghz really. For users in flats, where you want less range and more neighbourly consideration, it is the only way to fly... or was.
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13-09-2011, 19:00
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher
My laptop has an intel 5100 AGN adapter.
So far as I can makeout it is supposed to be 5ghz compatible. 
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update the driver via Intel..
found this too which may help you http://communities.intel.com/thread/19964
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13-09-2011, 19:01
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
I'm still having problems, I lose wireless connection when I change back to 300
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13-09-2011, 19:06
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
I agree on the 2.4Ghz default, or I used to. Now 5Ghz has been nerfed we'll all have to go back to 2.4Ghz to run 300meg as it has more channels and so is less likely to disturb the neighbours.
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Well no, 2.4Ghz only really has two non-overlapping channel for 300Mhz running, 5Ghz even while nerfed still has 2 (and also half the range). So same number of channels plus half the range (i.e. 5Ghz) will interfere less.
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Who has a 5Ghz setup? Well, how about every VM customer with a 50meg or higher connection? Since VM give you a 5Ghz dongle with the Superhub every one of us has the kit for it. It takes no more 'brains' to set up than 2.4Ghz really. For users in flats, where you want less range and more neighbourly consideration, it is the only way to fly... or was.
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Also no, they give you a 5Ghz-capable dongle but you still have to check all your other existing devices are 5Ghz capable or lose wireless. Tell me how many ordinary consumers there are that know how to check if all their laptops, mobile phones, tablets, TVs, and games consoles have 5Ghz wireless? Oh and you only usually get the dongle if you ask for it specifically (and most people don't).
P.S. I have a Vm50mb connection and they gave me a 2.4Ghz only dongle.
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13-09-2011, 19:08
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
Help, My SH has now got the R30 software, and i have selected the Modem Mode and ticked the boxed.
However my Netgear WGR614 is not working for the wireless part?
- Which Ethernet wires do i move across from my SH to the Netgear Wireless Modem?
- Do i need 2 make any other changes?
Thanks in Advance for your help.
Tanny
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13-09-2011, 19:10
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
No, DFS is required in most EU countries, including the UK. 36, 40, 44, and 48 are the only channels useable without DFS, 52-140 are allowable with DFS which I bet they can't get to work since the SH is such a retarded "bad neighbour", and 149-165 require an OFCOM license, which only a few of us have.
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You mean VM have been making me break the law by using their SuperHub up until now? Or did they have DFS working before, and have just nerfed that too? I suspect the latter, or many prosecutions would have been happening. OFCOM are not shy.
We've now gone from 18 channels down to just 4. That means VM have just stolen 78% of my 5Ghz channels by remote control. Why? Is this a punishment beating for wanting to be able to transfer data to my new NAS without locking up my Superhub?
It seems to me we have two options to resolve this. Either we take aggressive action against this bullying or we all apologise to VM for pressing them to fix the wireless crashes and beg them to un-nerf our routers, promising never to do it again. There's no point simply moaning on the forums as VM may decide to take 5Ghz away completely if we do that.
Option one requires some impressive community will power and cohesion though. I am willing to arrange some direct action if there is enough support in my area (I am experienced at this). Please PM me if you are willing to get together one Saturday and peacefully occupy the Southampton Centre VM shop with banners and the like. I shall provide full legal and best practice details to all if there are enough of the willing. Ideally we would need to get similar protests happening in other branches, though it need not be on the same day. A rolling protest would be just as good if not better.
If not enough people will go with this then I shall put together an apology letter and ask for as many to sign up as possible. We need to change their minds one way or another, it's fight or flight time folks.
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13-09-2011, 19:19
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
what I have done it switch my router off, plug out then switched it back on again, the router then rebooted and I'm on R30.
However previously under R26 my router defaulted back to factory settings and I couldn't get a wireless connection on my wifes laptop. I switched from 300 to 145 and I managed to get access via wireless.
I have attempted to switch it back to 300, the channel as number 1 and 2nd 5 and I'm still getting the same issue as I did under R26 - no wireless connection
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13-09-2011, 19:20
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by Blairhoyle
I'm still having problems, I lose wireless connection when I change back to 300
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Originally Posted by Blairhoyle
what I have done it switch my router off, plug out then switched it back on again, the router then rebooted and I'm on R30.
However previously under R26 my router defaulted back to factory settings and I couldn't get a wireless connection on my wifes laptop. I switched from 300 to 145 and I managed to get access via wireless.
I have attempted to switch it back to 300, the channel as number 1 and 2nd 5 and I'm still getting the same issue as I did under R26 - no wireless connection
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you have an old wireless chip within your laptop. i've advised you via pm.
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Originally Posted by tanny
Help, My SH has now got the R30 software, and i have selected the Modem Mode and ticked the boxed.
However my Netgear WGR614 is not working for the wireless part?
- Which Ethernet wires do i move across from my SH to the Netgear Wireless Modem?
- Do i need 2 make any other changes?
Thanks in Advance for your help.
Tanny
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you should of read the instructions which are on the right of the screen in a column on the modem mode page.
the router ethernet cable should be plugged into the port nearest to the cable and power input.
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13-09-2011, 19:26
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by thenry
you should of read the instructions which are on the right of the screen in a column on the modem mode page.
the router ethernet cable should be plugged into the port nearest to the cable and power input.
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I thought i did, Thanks another question do i plug any of the Cables into The Yellow Ethernet slot on the router or do i leave this blank ie the Ethernet cable from the SH to the Router does this go in the Yellow part of the Router or in anyone of the 4 spare slots?
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13-09-2011, 19:28
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by tanny
I thought i did, Thanks another question do i plug any of the Cables into The Yellow Ethernet slot on the router or do i leave this blank.
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Modem Mode Help
Modem Mode
When active, Modem Mode disables the wireless and routing functions of your Super Hub so you can use your own wireless router.
Active Ports & Connections
When in Modem Mode, only one Ethernet port will be active on your Super Hub. You can connect a PC/laptop/console etc directly to your Super Hub via this active port. The image below highlights the port that should be used to connect your external equipment.
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Disable Modem Mode
You can disable Modem Mode from the Main Menu which is accessed by typing 192.168.100.1 in your internet browser.
Alternatively you can restore your Super Hub back to its original settings by using the reset button on the side of your Super Hub.
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13-09-2011, 19:31
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by Masque
Modem Mode Help
Modem Mode
When active, Modem Mode disables the wireless and routing functions of your Super Hub so you can use your own wireless router.
Active Ports & Connections
When in Modem Mode, only one Ethernet port will be active on your Super Hub. You can connect a PC/laptop/console etc directly to your Super Hub via this active port. The image below highlights the port that should be used to connect your external equipment.
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Disable Modem Mode
You can disable Modem Mode from the Main Menu which is accessed by typing 192.168.100.1 in your internet browser.
Alternatively you can restore your Super Hub back to its original settings by using the reset button on the side of your Super Hub.
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Thanks I have read this but i am still getting confused SORRY.
When i connect the Ethernet cable from my SH to the Router does it go in the Yellow slot on the router or anyone of the 4 slots?
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13-09-2011, 19:33
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by tanny
Thanks I have read this but i am still getting confused SORRY.
When i connect the Ethernet cable from my SH to the Router does it go in the Yellow slot on the router or anyone of the 4 slots?
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I misread that bit, you connect into the WAN or Internet port on your router which will be the only one without a number.
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13-09-2011, 19:34
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling
You mean VM have been making me break the law by using their SuperHub up until now? Or did they have DFS working before, and have just nerfed that too? I suspect the latter, or many prosecutions would have been happening. OFCOM are not shy.
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I'll leave that to you to speculate. I don't know as I've never had my hands on a working superhub.
As for Ofcom, they investigate in response to complaints. They don't, and probably can't go round checking everyone's wireless to see if DFS is on or not. Hell, it's hard enough to find anyone using 5Ghz at all let alone fire a radar signal at each one and wait half an hour. But if a license holder files an interference complaint, they'll investigate.
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We've now gone from 18 channels down to just 4. That means VM have just stolen 78% of my 5Ghz channels by remote control. Why? Is this a punishment beating for wanting to be able to transfer data to my new NAS without locking up my Superhub?
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Who knows why VM do anything they do. Apparently their departments do not communicate with each other.
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It seems to me we have two options to resolve this. Either we take aggressive action against this bullying or we all apologise to VM for pressing them to fix the wireless crashes and beg them to un-nerf our routers, promising never to do it again. There's no point simply moaning on the forums as VM may decide to take 5Ghz away completely if we do that.
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Heh, an interesting supposition, though again I'll leave it to you. I don't have a superhub, and if I ever get one I won't be using it as a 'super' or 'hub' anything.
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13-09-2011, 20:03
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Re: R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....
I've had 2 reboots on R30 in under an hour now.
please don't tell me there is still problems
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