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Old 24-08-2011, 22:27   #46
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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The poor decisions made by the Police at the time were highlighted by the Interim Report by Lord Taylor, especially Chapter 18 - have you read it?
Yes l have quickly looked at it and it confirms the poor decisions made at the time by the police.
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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How do you determine it was stupidity ? No doubt decisions were made based on whatever information was at hand at the time. If you were not there, with that information, what gives you the right to call people stupid ?
What gives the Yorkshire police force the right to let people die and in many cases the police officers just ignored the cries for help even as the life was crushed out of victims in front of them while they stood back and watched.

The blinkered stupidity of senior officers not allowing ambulances to approach the ground when it was obvious people were dead or dying, just look at the television footage and think again how those decisions can be made.
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Old 24-08-2011, 23:55   #48
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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Well l think some very poor decisions were made at the time by the Police which resulted in the terrible tragedy which then engulfed many at Hillsborough and if you read my post earlier you will see some of the questions that need answering.
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Yes l have quickly looked at it and it confirms the poor decisions made at the time by the police.
Goalposts and moving springs to mind.....

You quickly looked at a 88 page report, and made up your mind from that brief perusal - had you read it before I posted the link?
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Old 25-08-2011, 06:38   #49
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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Goalposts and moving springs to mind.....

You quickly looked at a 88 page report, and made up your mind from that brief perusal - had you read it before I posted the link?
l have always had the same view on the Hillsborough disater ever since it happened as anybody that had seen it and the aftermath of it knew that there were many poor decisions made by the police on that dreadful day and as a Liverpool supporter l have always followed this since the disaster has happened and have waited for the day when the full truth comes out and hopefully that will be soon.
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

Once again - had you read the report before I gave you that link?
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Once again - had you read the report before I gave you that link?
No but as you politely pointed out l have read chapter 18 since then and my views on it are still the same.
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Old 25-08-2011, 10:24   #52
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

Aah - before, your opinion was uninformed, now it is partially informed.....

Try reading the rest - context (and being fully informed) is our friend, when making comments and decisions (imho).

After all, we wouldn't want to be making comments based solely on tabloid headlines, would we?
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Old 25-08-2011, 10:25   #53
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

I'd still like to know what "Justice" people are expecting to get from this?
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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Ash - before, your opinion was uninformed, now it is partially informed.....

Try reading the rest - context (and being fully informed) is our friend, when making comments and decisions (imho).

After all, we wouldn't want to be making comments based solely on tabloid headlines, would we?
l tend not to read tabloids so l have never based anything l have to say on those rags so that assumption is way off the mark as l tend to read papers like The Guardian and Daily Telegraph and secondly l carefully consider my comments before l make them but it seems Headmaster Hugh will have to call me in for extra classes to teach me properly.
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I'd still like to know what "Justice" people are expecting to get from this?
Read through all of this after the video and see what you think?

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.htm
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Read through all of this after the video and see what you think?

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.htm
Yes, confirmed what I already knew, and a bit more besides.

IMO the only way the 96 would get "Justice" would be for criminal charges to be brought against SY Police?
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

MPs to debate release of Hillsborough cabinet papers


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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

Ministers should release all government documents relating to the Hillsborough disaster, MPs have agreed following a debate in the House of Commons.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-15339818
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Ministers should release all government documents relating to the Hillsborough disaster, MPs have agreed following a debate in the House of Commons.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-15339818
Indeed they should, Its a shame that ALL of the successive Government's since have refused to release the papers. I hope that with this release there is closure but some how i don't think they will be.
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Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files

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More than 16,000 people have signed an e-petition calling on The Sun to reveal its sources behind a notorious story on the Hillsborough tragedy, in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives.
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