30M : What do VM do to make this happen?

[Efour]

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Well i seem to have some pretty regular as clockwork users on my Node.

There must be more to this than discussed above. Something in the traffic management

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Efour

There must be more to this than discussed above. Something in the traffic management

I feel they will never own up to it if it is the traffic shaping.

This is my area so yours is well and truly being hit

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Efour

Well i seem to have some pretty regular as clockwork users on my Node.

There must be more to this than discussed above. Something in the traffic management

That would most likely affect everyone in your area, along with everyone around you.

According to your graph the problems started yesterday considerably before the traffic management would have become active and stopped a bit after. I can buy the TM kicking in and switching off either early or late, doing a bit of both seems unlikely as it suggests that computers can't count, something they're usually reasonably good at

[Efour]

i thought weekend managment started ... welll all day but turned off at night ?

it still [Mod Edit]me off how it ends so abruptly and given all discussed about users habits to me it seems like a small number are destroying the upstream.

would me being on 50/5 up give me a better slice of that upstream and no packet loss, or just give me a subpar 50 product?

[Ignitionnet]

Nice graph you have right now, shows the load ramping up nicely from 8am onwards. Weekend management is 12 noon - midnight.

You can actually see the load burst at 2pm where someone starts doing that thing.

50/5 wouldn't benefit you in the slightest.

[Efour]

i want to kill that user

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Efour

i want to kill that user

Make sure you do it after he turns off his torrents

[bandit2329]

HI all i download most large files after midnight as not to have a effect on others im on 30MB but really vm should provide a service where we should all be able to download at our max anytime of day.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by bandit2329

HI all i download most large files after midnight as not to have a effect on others im on 30MB but really vm should provide a service where we should all be able to download at our max anytime of day.

How much would that cost VM to provide by way of infrastructure capacity? They can't do that at the price we pay for a circuit.

[Efour]

Do you know how much capacity they do plan roughly for an urban area? its not that dense mostly 60 houses per street terraced 1930s buildings a few high/dense areas flats etc. Or is this classified information :O

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by bandit2329

HI all i download most large files after midnight as not to have a effect on others im on 30MB but really vm should provide a service where we should all be able to download at our max anytime of day.

Are you willing to pay the extra for your dedicated bandwidth and If you are, how much extra would you pay for that max download at anytime of the day ???

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Efour

Do you know how much capacity they do plan roughly for an urban area? its not that dense mostly 60 houses per street terraced 1930s buildings a few high/dense areas flats etc. Or is this classified information :O

This is a piece of string question. In my area, it's less than 500 houses per optical node. That's the low end of the quoted range of 500 - 2000. So the cities will be nearer to 2000 - and they're suffering like in East London and users on the Mortlake CMTS.

To roll out 100 meg and compete with BT's upcoming 80 meg Infinity, VM understand that they have to raise their game and [rovide renewed infrastructure where it is weak and particularly to add channels to highly populated areas (new street furniture with more optical kit).

Igni knows more about the detail than I. VM like to play everything close to their chest - perhaps you could regard this as semi-classified because of commercial sensitivity!

[Chrysalis]

In my high takeup area I am still waiting these new channels seph

I wish I could count the houses per node here but what I do know is there is lots of house conversions to flats/bedsits, and converted factories to flats. So the node density is likely much higher than it was when cable originally came to town.

I think rather than adding channels VM really need to reduce the densities, if it means new cabinets or deeper fiber then so be it. Also we need QAM64 upstream channels and upstream bonding. Comcast are doing it fine.

[Sephiroth]

Chrys - I painstakingly surveyed Winnersh and mapped each cabinet, each optical node, traced the tell tale signs on the pavement to be sure of which optical node served which group of boxes. I published it somewhere on the forum a year or so agao and I'll put it up in the ACF in order to stimulate a few thoughts.

You're right about the stab in the dark with flats, but bedsits are usually tell tale from the outside and street view handles that.

I'm not certain, but the grapevine (not Igni) suggests that 64QAM upstream is coming taking into account the additional spectrum available.

[Chrysalis]

To be fair in certian areas a house is probably a house and in some areas bedsits will be rare. My area tho which is a lot of low end of the rental market will be various bedsits and flats as they fill that market due to the lower rental cost. Across the road tho is also a council estate which will be mainly families. So its a mixed area.

So your count is probably accurate and you will know yourself if there is many bedsits and such in your area. I did get a figure for my area density of someone within VM, and its way above 2000 so I wont quote it here as I think it may well be wrong (I have been fed wrong info before).