How happy are you with Virgin's TV service - Page 4

**Hugh** · 07-09-2011, 16:37

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Originally Posted by denphone

But you can turn that round and get the answer from Sky saying Virgin are trying to get it on the cheap so l take both answers with a degree of scepticism.

We don't see it on BT Vision either - they must be cheapskates too.....

muppetman11 · 07-09-2011, 16:40

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Originally Posted by denphone

But you can turn that round and get the answer from Sky saying Virgin are trying to get it on the cheap so l take both answers with a degree of scepticism.

Den Sky Atlantic will only end up on VM when Sky are good and ready to drop the exclusive promotions , however I agree with you on the many other channels missing on VM.

HD Boy · 07-09-2011, 16:42

there is no exclusive promotions

denphone · 07-09-2011, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We don't see it on BT Vision either - they must be cheapskates too.....

But the talks between Virgin and Sky about Sky Atlantic do not involve BT unless they have been given a seat at the same discussion table.

Peter_ · 07-09-2011, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We don't see it on BT Vision either - they must be cheapskates too.....

You do not see it on Smallworld or Wightcable either another pair of cheapskate cable providers.

muppetman11 · 07-09-2011, 16:46

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Originally Posted by martine93

there is no exclusive promotions

On leaflets there are , says available exclusive to Sky Customers on channel 108. Worth asking though @sky_atlantic twitter team.

HD Boy · 07-09-2011, 16:54

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

On leaflets there are , says available exclusive to Sky Customers on channel 108. Worth asking though @sky_atlantic twitter team.

That can change quickly. I have asked sky_atlantic twitter team

muppetman11 · 07-09-2011, 16:57

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Originally Posted by martine93

That can change quickly

I agree , I personally think maybe the new year perhaps February but who knows.

devilincarnate · 07-09-2011, 16:58

The talks are going to take a long time? As it takes a long time to get through the "SKY" across the "Atlantic" and with the changes to the air miles coming in, it could be a lot longer

**Hugh** · 07-09-2011, 16:59

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Originally Posted by denphone

But the talks between Virgin and Sky about Sky Atlantic do not involve BT unless they have been given a seat at the same discussion table.

And that has what to do with the proposition?

If it were such a reasonably priced deal, don't you think BT Vision, Smallworld, or Wightcable would have picked up the channel (in a one-to-one negotation with Sky)?

Or do you think the fact that Sky were publically trumpeting that Atlantic was exclusive to Sky may have something to do with it (exclusive - not letting others have it).

HD Boy · 07-09-2011, 17:04

I think we will get Sky Movies Classics HD soon because it is coming to Smallworld Cable

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Can offer Sky Sports HD1 & 2 & HD Movies, but Sky won't allow SS 3, 4 or SS News in HD yet. Worth it? Or is lack of SS4 in HD a big thing?.

http://twitter.com/#!/smallworldcable

denphone · 07-09-2011, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh

And that has what to do with the proposition?

If it were such a reasonably priced deal, don't you think BT Vision, Smallworld, or Wightcable would have picked up the channel (in a one-to-one negotation with Sky)?

Or do you think the fact that Sky were publically trumpeting that Atlantic was exclusive to Sky may have something to do with it (exclusive - not letting others have it).

Because we were talking about Virgin,s and Sky,s negotiations over Sky Atlantic which do not involve BT but if you want to bring them into the debate then remember that Virgin has near enough 4 million TV customers while the other TV providers like BT,Smallworld and Wightcable have far less TV customers then Virgin and would have far less leverage in any discussions then Virgin in any discussions with Sky over possible carriage of certain channels.

Harryn9000 · 07-09-2011, 17:19

would love to have sky sport news hd it looks alot better than sd version

HD Boy · 07-09-2011, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Harryn9000

would love to have sky sport news hd it looks alot better than sd version

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They are part of the sale of VMtv... VM get Sky basics in HD, Sky Arts were included.
More HD is on it's way....
* I work for Virgin Media, but my opinions are my own. *

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...VM/td-p/435871

**Hugh** · 07-09-2011, 17:38

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Originally Posted by denphone

Because we were talking about Virgin,s and Sky,s negotiations over Sky Atlantic which do not involve BT but if you want to bring them into the debate then remember that Virgin has near enough 4 million TV customers while the other TV providers like BT,Smallworld and Wightcable have far less TV customers then Virgin and would have far less leverage in any discussions then Virgin in any discussions with Sky over possible carriage of certain channels.

No, we were debating whether it was that Virgin Media were too "cheap" to pay the appropriate price for Sky Atlantic, or was it more likely that Sky had made the price too steep, and to support the "too steep" proposition, I (and a few others) pointed out that none of the other potential routes to market (BT Vision, Smallworld, Wightcable) had seemed to reach a deal with Sky either.

It is called "providing examples to back up your proposition", rather than just continuously stating, without supporting examples, "VM are cheap" (and I don't regard Sky stating it as supporting evidence....

).

You do like to narrow the focus down to the only part that supports your position, excluding contradictory evidence, don't you?