Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
22-08-2011, 12:41
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Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
I was driving along a main road in my area (Romford/East London) and noticed that VM jacketed fellows were laying new cables in the ducting along the street. I've been told that new cables were laid underneath my street earlier today. So looks like whole area is getting done. I didn't notice any old cables coming out, just a new one on a gigantic roll been fed underneath the street.
As the titles says, do the 100mb upgrades require new cables? I didn't think they did. Vm's 100mb rollout page says my area's upgrades are "being planned" so I'm surpised to see work going on. Can't think of any other reason for new cables. The cables were all upgraded for digital services about 10 years ago and I'm sure they'd be fine for many years to come.
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22-08-2011, 12:42
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
Are there any new builds in the area? Also you may find that they're doing a business install somewhere..
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22-08-2011, 12:44
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
No, no new builds or business' in my immediate area.
If I see em again, I'll stop the car and ask.
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22-08-2011, 16:34
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
100mb doesn't usually need new cables, but old/broken/crappy cables needs new cables.
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22-08-2011, 18:39
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
As above, the oldest cable is good enough for up to silly speeds .. but they must have found an issue .. thats good news ..
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22-08-2011, 19:30
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
Thanks for replies fellows.
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22-08-2011, 19:32
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
The upstream uplift would be the thing requiring new cables if anything, once this is done 100Mb is 'just' about getting enough capacity in place.
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23-08-2011, 06:48
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
The upstream uplift would be the thing requiring new cables if anything, once this is done 100Mb is 'just' about getting enough capacity in place.
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 I have the original cables in my street from 1921  and I get 200Mb easy ..
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23-08-2011, 12:30
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
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Originally Posted by Nopanic
 I have the original cables in my street from 1921  and I get 200Mb easy ..
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Isn't the rubber insulation starting to perish? Or is the lead sheath holding it in place?
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23-08-2011, 17:43
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
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Originally Posted by Pauls9
Isn't the rubber insulation starting to perish? Or is the lead sheath holding it in place?
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its actually made of asbestos ..
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23-08-2011, 17:49
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
Please don't mistake asbestos with petrification
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23-08-2011, 19:56
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
That's me when you reply to my posts
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23-08-2011, 20:16
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
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Originally Posted by Nopanic
 I have the original cables in my street from 1921  and I get 200Mb easy ..
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That's pretty impressive given 'modern' coax wasn't invented until 1929 and not used commercially until 1941.
You meant 1981 right? Most areas are still running on the original cable, to clarify where a network is built as a line it's possible that the coaxial line itself may need to be ripped up to allow for replacement of actives. The actual coax itself is usually much of muchness.
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23-08-2011, 20:17
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
So before 1941 VM was using a balanced feeder ??
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23-08-2011, 20:19
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Re: Do 100mb Upgrades Need New Cables?
We are upgrading some of the kit in the street for splitting the upstreams at node level
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