BT and BSkyB lead broadband battle

Sky certainly offer standalone broadband cheaper as evening and weekend phone calls, line rental and 20mb broadband is £22.50 in comparison to £21 for 10mb broadband on its todd.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Sky certainly offer standalone broadband cheaper as evening and weekend phone calls, line rental and 20mb broadband is £22.50 in comparison to £21 for 10mb broadband on its todd.

Up to 20mb ...i get 12mb

I treat VM 10MB and Sky 20MB as equals.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by richard1960

By the way how would that be better as i often stream content but would not be able to with 1.5mb as it would keep buffering,even BT admit this.?

You said VM broadband is not superior in your posting clearly that is not the case with me, it is vastly superior to ADSL in my area now stop digging.

I've been through this many times. Latency, jitter, packet loss, stability, upstream ratios, are all factors in which VM are worse. This is based on national average figures, not just you. The world of broadband does not revolve around you.

Streaming isn't the only thing people do on the internet.

Ignorant single-minded folk like you are the reason companies get away with selling this one-horse crap as "ultimate fibre optic broadband" when it's nothing of the sort.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I've been through this many times. Latency, jitter, packet loss, stability, upstream ratios, are all factors in which VM are worse. This is based on national average figures, not just you. The world of broadband does not revolve around you.

Streaming isn't the only thing people do on the internet.

Ignorant single-minded folk like you are the reason companies get away with selling this one-horse crap as "ultimate fibre optic broadband" when it's nothing of the sort.

So we are all Ignorant single minded folk on here are we.

[qasdfdsaq]

Nope just the ones who ignore the evidence and say "It's fine for me, so it's fine for everyone".

[New to cable]

BT and SKY are really leading the way with reliable, useable ,stable broadband. Also the ADSL services the 2 companys offer can actually handle xboxlive,VoIP,Youtube in HD.


The figures say it all, Sky added 174'000 broadband customers. Who was it this site saying Sky's figures will probably be as bad as Virgnmedias?

Originally Posted by New to cable

be as bad as Virgnmedias?

It was Bllys.

[TJS]

Originally Posted by New to cable

BT and SKY are really leading the way with reliable, useable ,stable broadband. Also the ADSL services the 2 companys offer can actually handle xboxlive,VoIP,Youtube in HD.


The figures say it all, Sky added 174'000 broadband customers. Who was it this site saying Sky's figures will probably be as bad as Virgnmedias?

Have you honestly just joined this forum to talk about how amazing your experience with sky was.


If it was so great then why did you leave them and come to virgin.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Angua

And anyone who is currently paying £45 for stand alone and is out of 12 month contract can ring up and get the £35 rate for 12 months - no quibbles.

So long as they're aware of it of course. That's why the price is still £45 though, same as most other grandfathered prices, can make a few £ from people who don't realise prices have been dropped.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I've been through this many times. Latency, jitter, packet loss, stability, upstream ratios, are all factors in which VM are worse. This is based on national average figures, not just you. The world of broadband does not revolve around you.

Streaming isn't the only thing people do on the internet.

Ignorant single-minded folk like you are the reason companies get away with selling this one-horse crap as "ultimate fibre optic broadband" when it's nothing of the sort.

Thank you for being so rude are you always calling people ignorant on forums or were you just having a bad hair day indeed the world of broadband does not revolve around me! but i can only give you my expierience of vms broadband v what other products are available to me others may tell a different story ,

I am the customer and seeing as i am paying the bill and BT cannot offer me the speeds i want then i am staisfied and am certainly not ignorant,although its true to say i am not really technically minded enough to go into packet loss,jitter ect, ect, but certainly i find it very stable thanks pal.

[qasdfdsaq]

Thank you for being so ignorant and single minded I'm not always calling people ignorant, only when they are ignorant.

I don't really care what bill you're paying. In case you don't get the idea already, I don't care about your experience at all. Your experience has no bearing on everyone elses. We already have precise national statistics to go on that give a meaningful picture of everyone's experiences and what any person is likely to get. Given that you don't seem to understand any basic performance metrics outside of "OMG MY DOWNLOAD SPEED IS FASTER" your experience is completely subjective and is utterly meaningless.

[Russ]

Keep it civil please.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Thank you for being so ignorant and single minded I'm not always calling people ignorant, only when they are ignorant.

I don't really care what bill you're paying. In case you don't get the idea already, I don't care about your experience at all. Your experience has no bearing on everyone elses. We already have precise national statistics to go on that give a meaningful picture of everyone's experiences and what any person is likely to get. Given that you don't seem to understand any basic performance metrics outside of "OMG MY DOWNLOAD SPEED IS FASTER" your experience is completely subjective and is utterly meaningless.

Thank you and a good day to you,well seeing as i am a customer and am satisfied with vms broadband without arguing with you all day thats what matters most to me.

And given the fact with 1.5 mb i would have trouble streaming content which is my thing thats all i am worried about really, wether that makes me any more ignorant then a rude poster (like yourself ) is a moot point,latency,or ping does not really come into it now if i was a gamer it might well do.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Keep it civil please.

Sorry i am trying to Russ although its tough going.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Thank you and a good day to you,well seeing as i am a customer and am satisfied with vms broadband without arguing with you all day thats what matters most to me.

And given the fact with 1.5 mb i would have trouble streaming content which is my thing thats all i am worried about really, wether that makes me any more ignorant then a rude poster (like yorself) is a moot point,latency,or ping does not really come into it now if i was a gamer it might well do.

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Sorry i am trying to Russ although its tough going.

Half the reason why i left virgin broadband...it wasn't doing my gaming any good.

But if your a heavy downloader, i can see the attraction...I'm fairly light user