[Update] The News Corp scandal

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Not surprised. He was on this issue very early.

Yes, given what's coming out and Watson's role, I'd be more surprised if they hadn't done that.

Probably means they didn't find anything though. Anyone taking on News International, prior to the last few weeks, would have to be utterly clean. Nothing remotely controversial to their lives, no bitter ex-partners, no dodgy incidents in their youth, no affairs, nothing. Wouldn't surprise me to find out the editor of the Guardian and the reporter who broke the story 2 years ago were not followed. Not to mention the actors such as Hugh Grant who campaigned on this issue.

[denphone]

And it seems that what we have probably all suspected all along and that is that phone hacking is endemic across Fleet street Red tops.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14259180

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...r-2319039.html

And a couple of other bits of news as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...on-in-law.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-decision.html

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So Cameron should apologise for hiring somebody who has not been found guilty of anything, only charged? And he has stated that if Coulson is found guilty, he will come back and apologise.

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

In this case I think France's old guilty until proven innocent laws should be used and speaking of Dave, I wonder if Rupert regrets appointing him PM now

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

In this case I think France's old guilty until proven innocent laws should be used and speaking of Dave, I wonder if Rupert regrets appointing him PM now

Ah, that old canard.....

Link

la Constitution française (1958) – Article 9 of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789) “Everyone is supposed innocent until having been declared guilty”.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/wo...ef=global-home

It gets dirtier and dirtier.

On Dec. 21 last year, The Daily Telegraph was preparing to publish a blockbuster exclusive: Vince Cable, the government’s business secretary, had been caught on tape boasting that he had “declared war� on Rupert Murdoch and would find a convenient legal excuse to block the News Corporation’s bid for British Sky Broadcasting, Britain’s most lucrative satellite television network.
But the day before The Telegraph was to run the article, the paper was scooped by Robert Peston, the business editor of the BBC. Mr. Peston reported that “a whistle-blower� had provided him with a secretly recorded conversation between The Telegraph’s undercover reporters and Mr. Cable.
Senior editors at The Telegraph, furious that Mr. Peston had somehow beat them on their own story, suspected they were the victims of corporate espionage.

Do read the article to the end..even the BBC is being dragged into this case..

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/wo...ef=global-home

It gets dirtier and dirtier.



Do read the article to the end..even the BBC is being dragged into this case..

Hmm, well with the stakes so high and the pressure* to get scoops so great, I can see how that might encourage the pushing of boundaries as to what is and isn't acceptable. I think the media is slowly being reduced to the lowest common denominator.

*whether imposed by an employer or indeed self imposed in the pursuit of fame, recognition etc.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/wo...ef=global-home

It gets dirtier and dirtier.



Do read the article to the end..even the BBC is being dragged into this case..

To be fair it suggests someone is leaking to the BBC. Not that they are involved with hacking or other illegal means.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Ah, that old canard.....

Link

Was a joke Hugh, not particularly funny admitted but considering it was a Frenchman that came up with the concept of innocent until proven guilty I was hoping I wouldn't have to explain it.

[muppetman11]

Also it has emerged that Lord Leveson, the judge who will lead the hacking inquiry has said he had attended functions with Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law - but that he had informed Prime Minister David Cameron of this before the appointment was announced.



What a joke.

Tenuous link, really....

Originally Posted by Damien

To be fair it suggests someone is leaking to the BBC. Not that they are involved with hacking or other illegal means.

I didn't say they were guilty..I merely pointed out that they were being implicated.It's something we will be seeing rather more of as the case is further investigated and reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/bu...ml?_r=1&emc=na

Joel I. Klein, the former New York City schools chancellor, was in a tricky position. Three weeks ago, Rupert Murdoch asked Mr. Klein, now his trusted deputy, to oversee an investigation into the phone hacking scandal that has deeply wounded the News Corporation and its chairman, something Mr. Klein was eager to avoid.

His seemingly contradictory roles — de facto chief of internal affairs officer and ascendant executive with Mr. Murdoch’s ear — are raising questions about how robust and objective the internal inquiry can be.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...emocrats-bskyb

Rupert Murdoch's News International launched a campaign of bullying against senior Liberal Democrats in an attempt to force through the company's bid for BSkyB, high-level sources have told the Observer.
Lib Dem insiders say NI officials took their lobbying campaign well beyond acceptable limits and even threatened, last autumn, to persecute the party if Vince Cable, the business secretary, did not advance its case.
According to one account from a senior party figure, a cabinet minister was told that, if the government did not do as NI wanted, the Lib Dems would be "done over" by the Murdoch papers, which included the now defunct News of the World as well as the Sun, the Times and the Sunday Times.

Labour insiders say NI executives made clear to Miliband's office that because he had chosen to "make it personal" they would do the same, implying they would attack him through their media outlets.

[denphone]

So basically do what we tell you or else you will face the consequences.