TiVo General TiVo Discussion Part 2 - Page 295

Doz007 · 02-07-2011, 15:49

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Getting extremely fed up with the lack of a dynamic EPG.
Recorded smackdown last night on sky sports 3, started an hour late, so I missed the last half hour as even having half an hour of padding apparently isn't enough might just start recording for 2 hours before and after, and on all the sky sports channels for the times it gets moved around without the EPG updating.

Downloaded it instead so I could actually watch the thing, got it in HD, and with no adverts and am starting to wonder just why exactly I bother paying for a far inferior product.

Is a dynamic EPG something that could come as a software update?

TheDon · 02-07-2011, 17:23

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Originally Posted by Doz007

Is a dynamic EPG something that could come as a software update?

Theoretically.
But seeing as how the Tivo epg currently works, I'm not holding out much hope for it as it'd be a pretty major change.

Charliedontsurf · 02-07-2011, 17:36

Where has this myth that Tivo has dynamic EPG come from? IT DOESNT LOL.

No tivo box ever made has a dynamic epg. Its not going to happen the only dynamic epg in operation on this planet right now is running on Snowflake which sky will be rolling out soon.

TheDon · 02-07-2011, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf

Where has this myth that Tivo has dynamic EPG come from? IT DOESNT LOL.

No tivo box ever made has a dynamic epg. Its not going to happen the only dynamic epg in operation on this planet right now is running on Snowflake which sky will be rolling out soon.

Please point to someone saying Tivo has a dynamic EPG please. All I see is people complaining that it DOESN'T have one.

Charliedontsurf · 02-07-2011, 17:44

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Please point to someone saying Tivo has a dynamic EPG please. All I see is people complaining that it DOESN'T have one.

Well in that case well done on noticing Tivo the state of the art STB doesn't have a dynamic epg. By the way sky will late this year or early 2012.

**Hugh** · 02-07-2011, 17:48

Way to raise a straw man argument, then use it to make a cheap point....

(and point out that Sky doesn't have it either....)

Charliedontsurf · 02-07-2011, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Way to raise a straw man argument, then use it to make a cheap point....

(and point out that Sky doesn't have it either....)

So I achieved my goal, a Â£99 Tivo box doesn't have a dynamic epg, an neither does a free sky box.

You also need to look into the meaning of a straw man argument...I never attacked or refuted his original point.

muppetman11 · 02-07-2011, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf

So I achieved my goal, a Â£99 Tivo box doesn't have a dynamic epg, an neither does a free sky box.

Actually a Sky box does update epg dynamically. TIVO is a completely different offering and has many strengths.

Charliedontsurf · 02-07-2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Actually a Sky box does update epg dynamically. TIVO is a completely different offering and has many strengths.

It does 95% of the time but once or twice a year they dont

**Hugh** · 02-07-2011, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Charliedontsurf

So I achieved my goal, a Â£99 Tivo box doesn't have a dynamic epg, an neither does a free sky box.

You also need to look into the meaning of a straw man argument...I never attacked or refuted his original point.

Yes, you do...

A "straw man" argument is where one simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented, for instance, by stating at 16:36 in this thread

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Where has this myth that Tivo has dynamic EPG come from? IT DOESNT LOL

I never stated you had attacked or refuted his (whoever "his" is) point - your proposition was non-specific to any poster, but a "straw man" nonetheless.

Manster62 · 02-07-2011, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Manster62

Hi,
Not sure what to do? Want to order Tivo (not got my email yet, but I pre-registered, so hopefully in the next few days.....) but I think maybe I should wait until they've got BBC red button working.
If I order (and pay) in April to get the Â£40 install waived, can I ask for an install date later in the year - at least after Wimbledon, which I always use the BBC red button service for?
I know I could just wait until July and get the 'baby tivo' for a reduced cost - but having read how Tivo works, I think that the 1TB hard drive will be necessary to store everything that it records via Wishlists/Suggestions?
Currently getting very fed up with the small capacity of the V+ as just about everything I record is HD and I keep having to delete things I would like to watch because the drive gets full up.
So difficult - wait or not? The other thing that is making me think perhaps I should wait is the number of posts on forums all over the place saying that people are having problems with the tivo. I believe September is the next proper firmware update to solve a lot of the issues?
I keep going round in circles - one minute I want Tivo NOW, and the next I'm thinking of waiting 'til the Autumn....... What do others think?

Cheers....

I posted the above post in early April. How stupid could I have been????

I should have waited - then I could have used the red button on my V+ for Wimbledon and then bought the Tivo at a far lower price than I was being given with their 'special offer'. It makes my blood boil that the price has been reduced only a matter of weeks after us so called loyal customers were hoodwinked into thinking we were getting a special deal.
Poor show, Virgin.

Charliedontsurf · 02-07-2011, 18:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, you do...

A "straw man" argument is where one simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented, for instance, by stating at 16:36 in this thread I never stated you had attacked or refuted his (whoever "his" is) point - your proposition was non-specific to any poster, but a "straw man" nonetheless.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm you're stretching the context of "straw man" too its limit and I think you know it, but I guess it works...BARELY!

passingbat · 02-07-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Please point to someone saying Tivo has a dynamic EPG please. All I see is people complaining that it DOESN'T have one.

You haven't seen me complaining that it doesn't have one.

I've posted that a Depg has plus and minus points, and if one is implemented, we need the option to have it on or off, as you can do on Sky.

zantarous · 02-07-2011, 19:38

I had a cool Tivo moment last night, I had been on holiday for the last week or so so was catching up some recorded shows, I watched a episode of Smallville and during the break I saw a add for a new show called Sirens.

Now I don't use catch or OD that often but as soon as Smallville was finished I jumped into the EPG, I couldn't remember the name of the show but I could remember when it was advertised to be on, jumped back to the right day and played the show direct from the EPG. Very cool.

And I had not set a series link for the new Top Gear series but my suggestions folder had it and in HD, how can people not like suggestions?

muppetman11 · 02-07-2011, 19:41

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Originally Posted by passingbat

You haven't seen me complaining that it doesn't have one.

I've posted that a Depg has plus and minus points, and if one is implemented, we need the option to have it on or off, as you can do on Sky.

I agree with you , you also have to remember that the advantage with TIVO is three tuners as opposed to two , I get round this by recording the repeat on some shows however this is a real plus for VM the fact you can record three at once. As you have also said wishlists are a unique feature as is the advanced search. For me VM need to have a massive push and really sell these advanced features , they now have the box pricing at a great point so a big push could reap benefits. I think a DVD illustrating the many advanced features sent to potential customers would be a good idea.

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Originally Posted by zantarous

I had a cool Tivo moment last night, I had been on holiday for the last week or so so was catching up some recorded shows, I watched a episode of Smallville and during the break I saw a add for a new show called Sirens.

Now I don't use catch or OD that often but as soon as Smallville was finished I jumped into the EPG, I couldn't remember the name of the show but I could remember when it was advertised to be on, jumped back to the right day and played the show direct from the EPG. Very cool.

And I had not set a series link for the new Top Gear series but my suggestions folder had it and in HD, how can people not like suggestions?

I recorded Sirens , not watched it yet though , sounds a nice feature.