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Assisted Suicide.
View Poll Results: Do you think people should have the right to assistance if they decide to die?
Yes. They should if they want. 38 66.67%
Yes, but they should make the decision with the agreement of their family. 16 28.07%
No, we should not play God. 1 1.75%
No (any other reason). 2 3.51%
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Old 14-06-2011, 09:48   #16
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

I personally would rather there was an assisted suicide option.However as there isn't such a choice in law at present, I think I'm in the frame of mind that I'll cross that bridge IF I come to it

.Mainly because we can never be sure exactly what we feel about such an issue until it's in front of us and we have to decide.
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Old 14-06-2011, 13:46   #17
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

I voted to have the right to have an assisted suicide and would not want my family to have to have the legacy of guilt that their making the decision could leave them with.

I have a Living Will in place which includes a advance decision which outlines what actions I refuse to have carried out in the event of my not being able to give the instructions myself. The Advance Decision is legally recognised and will stop anyone trying to prolong my life or carry out any medical procedure that would leave me alive but with a reduced quality of life.

So, I can legally force the people around me to watch my life ebb away over a long period, I can even force the medical profession to stand by helplessly, but I can't legally make the decision to die peacefully in a dignified manner.

I may well have to face this decision in the future if/when my condition is no longer controllable, I have long since come to terms with death and it holds no fear for me, in fact I plan on staying around a long time and one day do that table top Zulu Dance but I want the legal right to decide when and how I die.
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Old 14-06-2011, 13:50   #18
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

I believe people should have the right to assisted suicide in the future.
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Old 14-06-2011, 14:00   #19
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

This would save the NHS and Welfare systems millions of pounds.

There are people out there that have incurable diseases and are just waiting to die usually in agony why shouldnt they be allowed to? As soneone else said in this thread we wouldnt let an animal suffer so why let a human?
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

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This would save the NHS and Welfare systems millions of pounds.

There are people out there that have incurable diseases and are just waiting to die usually in agony why shouldnt they be allowed to? As soneone else said in this thread we wouldnt let an animal suffer so why let a human?
My brother in law died last year of cancer and he suffered so much in the last year as he was totally unrecognisible from the person that everyone knew and loved.
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

denphone exactly i remember watching my grandfather screaming in agony in hospital because his lungs were on the verge of collapsing through cancer.
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

Hard for someone with lung cancer to scream

There's no excuse for anyone with advanced cancer to be in pain in a hospital..
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

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denphone exactly i remember watching my grandfather screaming in agony in hospital because his lungs were on the verge of collapsing through cancer.
l know and l do not want anybody in my family to suffer in future and thats why the law should be changed.

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Hard for someone with lung cancer to scream

There's no excuse for anyone with advanced cancer to be in pain in a hospital..
My brother in law was taking liquid morphine in the last 6 months and even though it curbed the pain he went from 15 stone to just over 6 stone and was totally unrecognisible in the end.
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Old 14-06-2011, 14:32   #24
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

Father was on enough liquid morphine to knock out an elephant after he'd had a lung out the year before.. He eventually went into hospital on christmas day and was put on an automated morphine injection.

Eldest brother went with cancer which eventually ate through his liver.. again he went peacefully on an automated morphine injection.

There's a difference though with an aggressive disease like cancer which can most of the time be pain medicated with a fast end and someone with a debilitating condition who might suffer mentally and physically for decades before finally succumbing to the condition. They are the people more likely to want the option of assisted suicide.
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Old 14-06-2011, 15:46   #25
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

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No, it's not. Whether you or I believe in God or not, a lot of people do believe in and follow an organised religion. Certain religions do express views about suicide very strongly, so people who believe in those religions may well base their views on what their religion says.
Ok. it would be interseting if you could change the wording, so that it says "No, because of my religious beliefs"


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Yes, it does. For the reason I have stated above.
I wonder if it came to it. someone would say "No, because of my religious beliefs. you'll just have to suffer"
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

I think that members will realise fully well what the options are without having 100% exact wording
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

Are you talking to me, Kymmy?
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

People should have the ability to choose when to die.

I just finished watching that documentry a few minutes ago, very powerful stuff

That couple at the end were so brave, especially the wife.
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

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No, it's not. Whether you or I believe in God or not, a lot of people do believe in and follow an organised religion. Certain religions do express views about suicide very strongly, so people who believe in those religions may well base their views on what their religion says.
Although I would say that is a personal choice for each individual. If we talking about society as a whole and if people should have the option then it doesn't matter IMO as people are still free to make that choice themselves.
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Re: Assisted Suicide.

It's though still not just a choice for the individual who wants to die.. someone has to knowingly help them for it to be assisted suicide and that is the issue here.. Choosing to die is not illegal and everyone is quite free to take that action if they so wish as long as they can carry out the full action themselves..
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