New TV I'm looking at has built-in Cable tuner? - Page 2

30-05-2011, 01:38

Yeap - this also has DVB-C tuner - 'C' actually stands for 'Cable' as far as I know - so its definitely a 'cable tuner'

Lew · 30-05-2011, 01:46

Correct.

DVB-T = digital terrestrial
DVB-S = digital satellite
DVB-C = digital cable

RamJet · 30-05-2011, 12:24

I don't understand this thread

why as we are in Europe don't we all have TVs / Cable slots or whatever that can be used throughtout Europe

increasingly companies are moving staff round Europe and increasingly British workers and seeking Jobs in Europe and vice-sersa

how can they take their best loved possession - their flat screen TV - with them to a new job/county if the cable slots / TVs are not pan-euopean ?

?

Kymmy · 30-05-2011, 12:45

Probably because components cost money.. a lot of manufacturers will have modules that they add to the units depending on where they are sold.. As cable in the UK is restricted to few companies and their own products there's not much point in putting in a DVB-C module. Other manufacturers though have them in as standard..

DaMac · 30-05-2011, 14:00

Also its not always as easy as just changing location settings in your t.v. to activate features / tuners etc some would require a firmware upgrade / flash to reliably change them from one country to another. As i stated earlier in the post a lot of companys make the set with all available hardware then just enable or disable the bits that need to work and how they work on a country by country basis.

RamJet · 30-05-2011, 19:16

yes

but as I said we are all in one large trading block called Europe

there is already a Europwide Electrical Power plug system

in the States all the TVs and Cable companies are compatatble

why is that not the case here in Europe

Kymmy · 30-05-2011, 19:31

Probably due to the fact that the states is one country with one FCC controling all the rules which are the same for communications throughout the whole country. Where as in Europe each individual country controls it's own communications rules which means differing frequency blocks as well as rules.. DVB-S I suppose is the closest amalgamation of the rules in the EU

cooperman1955 · 20-01-2012, 10:03

Has anyone actually tried tuning their DVB-C equiped telly into their VM feed?
I suspect that the unencripted channels might work!
It might save people having to shell out for an additional V-Box for, say the kitchen, kids room etc etc.
Many current Samsung TV's list DVB-C tuner in their spec.

akki007 · 20-01-2012, 10:09

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Originally Posted by RamJet

yes

but as I said we are all in one large trading block called Europe

there is already a Europwide Electrical Power plug system

in the States all the TVs and Cable companies are compatatble

why is that not the case here in Europe

Europewide power plug system? You mean the two pin thing? cos I don't see that over here!

nodrogd · 20-01-2012, 11:13

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Originally Posted by cooperman1955

Has anyone actually tried tuning their DVB-C equiped telly into their VM feed?
I suspect that the unencripted channels might work!
It might save people having to shell out for an additional V-Box for, say the kitchen, kids room etc etc.
Many current Samsung TV's list DVB-C tuner in their spec.

The only channels you are likely to get is BBC1/2, ITV, CH4 & CH5. These are the only ones that pass when an account is put on stop, so are likely unencrypted.

spiderplant · 20-01-2012, 13:06

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Originally Posted by cooperman1955

Has anyone actually tried tuning their DVB-C equiped telly into their VM feed?

Don't do it. It can put noise onto the network, which can affect the broadband and TV service of houses nearby.

cooperman1955 · 20-01-2012, 13:35

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

The only channels you are likely to get is BBC1/2, ITV, CH4 & CH5. These are the only ones that pass when an account is put on stop, so are likely unencrypted.

I'm sure that they are unencrypted.
My EuroVox still see's them (and others) fine.
My account is fine and I have two official VM boxes already.
But whats the point of paying for a third if there is already a functioning DVB-C tuner fitted?
Apart from, of course, to see the extra channels I'm paying for.

Noise into network?
Have you tried it, or is this hearsay?

There are several stages of buffering and isolation between properties.
Th RF input stage of a quality TV would be correctly terminated ito 75 Ohms and entirely passive.
Not interactive, like a V+ box.
I'd be supprised if it affected it at all.

Kymmy · 20-01-2012, 13:45

All boxes on nagra3 need the box and card on the account, the internal box to the TV won't be on the account so can't work with the card. You won't get anything but what's already been suggested (remember that VM does not have FTA/FTV channels)

Lew · 20-01-2012, 14:04

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Originally Posted by cooperman1955

Noise into network?
Have you tried it, or is this hearsay?

He works for VM and is knowledgable on such subjects so if he says that's the case I'd be inclined to believe what he says.

pauldavies83 · 20-01-2012, 14:26

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Don't do it. It can put noise onto the network, which can affect the broadband and TV service of houses nearby.

Isn't the isolator on the outside of the house that the feed passes through supposed to stop noise lapsing back out onto the network?