Why don't we have.....

OLD BOY · 22-05-2011, 17:48

I thought it would be a good idea to open a new thread on what readers might think we should have on cable to really bring in the punters for VM.

My wish list is:

- A review of the channels we don't get, which actually appear to be of a reasonable quality, such as CBS Drama.

- Much better VOD content. When you look at what you can buy in terms of box sets, I would have thought that we could have had a much better choice on the XL package. Don't mind if some of them are PPV, but they should ensure that viewing by VOD would be cheaper than actually buying the box sets from the shops (you are, after all, only renting for a specific time period).

- VM should do a deal with a good supplier (eg Lovefilm) to provide us with video streamed films and programmes. This could be provided to VM viewers via TIVO by way of subscriptions or PPV.

When you look at whether to go for satellite or cable, content is everything. Virgin Media should excel in this area - there is no excuse not to.

This would then silence those who keep asking for more channels and comparing unfavourably with Sky.

It all seems so easy. Why do VM not do this?

22-05-2011, 17:51

i agree a good free movie channel would be great

OLD BOY · 22-05-2011, 17:57

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Originally Posted by martyh

i agree a good free movie channel would be great

Er - I don't think it would be free! If you want decent films (rather than films that are quite a few years old, such as Movies 24 and True Movies), you will need to pay for them. There are three main scenarios:

- Subscription for the facility
- Pay per view
- A mix of both (eg subscription for a defined limit, thereafter PPV).

The thing I am most annoyed about is that we don't have the choice, but we could be given that choice. And Virgin Media would benefit from additional income. It is so simple, I can't understand why we are not getting this. What did they say a few years ago on their own advert - I want it all? Sad to say, we are not getting it!

I really want Virgin Media to succeed, but when I see the potential and what we are actually getting, it makes me very cross!

22-05-2011, 18:02

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er - I don't think it would be free! If you want decent films (rather than films that are quite a few years old, such as Movies 24 and True Movies), you will need to pay for them. There are three main scenarios:

- Subscription for the facility
- Pay per view
- A mix of both (eg subscription for a defined limit, thereafter PPV).

The thing I am most annoyed about is that we don't have the choice, but we could be given that choice. And Virgin Media would benefit from additional income. It is so simple, I can't understand why we are not getting this. What did they say a few years ago on their own advert - I want it all? Sad to say, we are not getting it!

I really want Virgin Media to succeed, but when I see the potential and what we are actually getting, it makes me very cross!

No i mean free ,like on sky ,we already have a ppv movie channel on virgin

denphone · 22-05-2011, 18:11

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I thought it would be a good idea to open a new thread on what readers might think we should have on cable to really bring in the punters for VM.

My wish list is:

- A review of the channels we don't get, which actually appear to be of a reasonable quality, such as CBS Drama.

- Much better VOD content. When you look at what you can buy in terms of box sets, I would have thought that we could have had a much better choice on the XL package. Don't mind if some of them are PPV, but they should ensure that viewing by VOD would be cheaper than actually buying the box sets from the shops (you are, after all, only renting for a specific time period).

- VM should do a deal with a good supplier (eg Lovefilm) to provide us with video streamed films and programmes. This could be provided to VM viewers via TIVO by way of subscriptions or PPV.

When you look at whether to go for satellite or cable, content is everything. Virgin Media should excel in this area - there is no excuse not to.

This would then silence those who keep asking for more channels and comparing unfavourably with Sky.

It all seems so easy. Why do VM not do this?

Because they do not want to spend the money.

22-05-2011, 18:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

... Much better VOD content. When you look at what you can buy in terms of box sets, I would have thought that we could have had a much better choice on the XL package. ..

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Originally Posted by martyh

i agree a good free movie channel would be great

I wanted forced adverts on VOD so VM can afford like 10 times as much VOD content including boxed sets & free movies on demand

with an option to pay monthly sub for ad-free viewing - just like lot new software nowadays

mentioned this loads times but goes down like lead balloon

OLD BOY · 22-05-2011, 18:16

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Originally Posted by martyh

No i mean free ,like on sky ,we already have a ppv movie channel on virgin

Not sure what you mean, martyh. The only 'free' channels on Sky are part of a package that you actually pay for. The other films can be seen through specific subscription (Sky Movies) or pay per view (Sky Box Office). The channels that are part of a general entertainment package show mainly older films and I was not referring to these.

I would like to access new films as soon as they were available on a subscription/PPV option and also have access to good quality new programmes via VOD or video streaming on TV (ie TIVO).

That is my idea of heaven! The cancellation of my subscriptiion to Sky Movies, which is very poor value for money, would pay for it.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Because they do not want to spend the money.

Surely, the increased subscriptions would pay for it! I would willingly switch my subscription from Sky Movies to pay for this!

devilincarnate · 22-05-2011, 18:18

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Originally Posted by denphone

Because they do not want to spend the money.

This is a bit wrong as VM are a company that is just turning around from debt in to profit. So if they were to spend X amount of money where would it come from

denphone · 22-05-2011, 18:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Not sure what you mean, martyh. The only 'free' channels on Sky are part of a package that you actually pay for. The other films can be seen through specific subscription (Sky Movies) or pay per view (Sky Box Office). The channels that are part of a general entertainment package show mainly older films and I was not referring to these.

I would like to access new films as soon as they were available on a subscription/PPV option and also have access to good quality new programmes via VOD or video streaming on TV (ie TIVO).

That is my idea of heaven! The cancellation of my subscriptiion to Sky Movies, which is very poor value for money, would pay for it.

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Surely, the increased subscriptions would pay for it! I would willingly switch my subscription from Sky Movies to pay for this!

Part of Virgins tv model is too inflexible though.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

This is a bit wrong as VM are a company that is just turning around from debt in to profit. So if they were to spend X amount of money where would it come from

True they are 5.8 billion still in debt.

OLD BOY · 22-05-2011, 18:21

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Originally Posted by denphone

Part of Virgins tv model is too inflexible though.

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True they are 5.8 billion still in debt.

Subscriptions and PPV = PROFIT. Sounds fairly straight forward to me. Am I missing something...?

22-05-2011, 18:23

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Not sure what you mean, martyh. The only 'free' channels on Sky are part of a package that you actually pay for. The other films can be seen through specific subscription (Sky Movies) or pay per view (Sky Box Office). The channels that are part of a general entertainment package show mainly older films and I was not referring to these.

There are 12 movie channels i think which you can have as part of a package ,they aren't worth buying seperate ,too expensive ,but if VM had their own movie channels that weren't ppv then that would be good

22-05-2011, 18:24

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

... if they were to spend X amount of money where would it come from

advertising on VOD

devilincarnate · 22-05-2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by denphone

Part of Virgins tv model is too inflexible though.

Which part is this? As all the parts that I have seen have been quite flexible

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Originally Posted by denphone

True they are 5.8 billion still in debt.

Very true but as I said that they are turning it in to profit to try and eradicate the debt, But this will take a while. So it is either jump ship or stay with them for the long haul

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Originally Posted by JethroUK

advertising on VOD

Very true and 100% agree

carlwaring · 22-05-2011, 18:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

- A review of the channels we don't get, which actually appear to be of a reasonable quality, such as CBS Drama.

I would assume that they're reviewing their channels on an on-going basis. Why wouldn't they? And haven't they said as much already.

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- Much better VOD content.

If you like. I'm not personally interested in anything PPV and I only have enough time to watch what I record never mind find something OD.

I agree with the idea though.

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- VM should do a deal with a good supplier (eg Lovefilm) to provide us with video streamed films and programmes. This could be provided to VM viewers via TIVO by way of subscriptions or PPV.

And they have said that they're looking into this too already.

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Originally Posted by JethroUK

I wanted forced adverts on VOD .... mentioned this loads times but goes down like lead balloon

I wonder why? Actually, I don't at all.

denphone · 22-05-2011, 18:29

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Which part is this? As all the parts that I have seen have been quite flexible

Very true but as I said that they are turning it in to profit to try and eradicate the debt, But this will take a while. So it is either jump ship or stay with them for the long haul

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Very true and 100% agree

l will never go to Sky its as simple as that.