Virgin Media lack of tv investment - Page 13

denphone · 13-05-2011, 17:47

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond

That's not really deep debt though.

Well if that is not a big debt then what is.

13-05-2011, 17:53

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond

That's not really deep debt though.

Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

denphone · 13-05-2011, 17:57

At the moment it has slowed to a snail,s pace.

LexDiamond · 13-05-2011, 18:04

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well if that is not a big debt then what is.

Considering the way the actual debt is structured and the fact that VM has an infrastructure which is tangible, I would say the debt is sensible.

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Originally Posted by richard1960

Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

You are ignoring the fact that VM can fund its operations via its current revenue stream. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't see the core infrastructure investment plus operational investment that VM have consistently made since its inception as a media co.

Stephen · 13-05-2011, 18:06

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Originally Posted by richard1960

Deep enough probably to stop them adding channels at a fast pace imo, ie unlike sky vm is not sitting on a "cash mountain" i point to the example of it taking 9 months to add sky arts HD and only after the april price increase went through.

To me virgins debt is substantial,now i am well pleased with the tv service it carries all the channels i require now so i am in no way being critical of vm at all,just putting or trying to put a rational argument as to why vm perhaps cannot afford to add new channels as fast as people may like.

To me vm HAVE invested in tv substantially in the past 18 months more HD,sky sports Red Button,upgrading the headends ect,the pace in future may slow a little.

Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

denphone · 13-05-2011, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

They have been in talks for a awful long time with some companies then.

devilincarnate · 13-05-2011, 18:13

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Originally Posted by denphone

They have been in talks for a awful long time with some companies then.

Its good to talk

13-05-2011, 19:13

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond

Considering the way the actual debt is structured and the fact that VM has an infrastructure which is tangible, I would say the debt is sensible.

You are ignoring the fact that VM can fund its operations via its current revenue stream. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't see the core infrastructure investment plus operational investment that VM have consistently made since its inception as a media co.

Well i am not party to wether vm can fund its current operations totally from their current revenue stream as i am only joe public,but i will bow to your knowledge on the subject,as i say i am not waiting any new channels i am happy enough now sky sport red button is here.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Sky Arts HD has nothing to do with any money issues. That channel was part of the deal done with Sky last year. It may have taken a while to appear on the tv platform but the deal was done ages ago.

Carriage rights and contracts can take a long time to agree. So new channels could be coming and VM could have been talking to other parties for a long time for all we know.

VM isn't really that in debt. A lot of companies are operating in debt these days.

No i am aware the deal was done last year but the channel took 9 months to appear! wether that was down to finances i do not know for sure,but it seems an awfully long time to me.

I know carriage rights can take a long time no argument there but it was rumoured at least 2 years ago that History HD ws in negotiation they must have fallen asleep,as i say iam happy with my channel selection now though.

denphone · 13-05-2011, 19:15

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Its good to talk

It certainly is on this wonderful forum.

devilincarnate · 13-05-2011, 19:15

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Originally Posted by richard1960

I know carriage rights can take a long time no argument there but it was rumoured at least 2 years ago that History HD ws in negotiation they must have fallen asleep,as i say iam happy with my channel selection now though.

Yes that is true and I for one am happy with the channel line up as well

carlwaring · 13-05-2011, 19:24

Me too. Obviously I hope we get certain channels that I have mentioned previously at some point, but I'm sure we will

denphone · 13-05-2011, 19:26

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Me too. Obviously I hope we get certain channels that I have mentioned previously at some point, but I'm sure we will

Always look on the bright side of life.

devilincarnate · 13-05-2011, 19:27

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Originally Posted by denphone

It certainly is on this wonderful forum.

It would be boring if we did not talk

So all opinions are welcome, If not agreed with

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Originally Posted by denphone

Always look on the bright side of life.

Monty Python

13-05-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Yes that is true and I for one am happy with the channel line up as well

Good to have some happy customers tonight in the VM camp.

denphone · 13-05-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

It would be boring if we did not talk

So all opinions are welcome, If not agreed with

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Monty Python

Now they were worth paying for.