'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??

[pjcoop]

Hi,
Does anyone know if VM are looking to provide an ISP level filtering system like TalkTalk's 'HomeSafe'?
I personally like the idea... although it may have some opposition generally.

[Mick Fisher]

Nothing that VM get up to would surprise me.

But please don't allow yourself to be suckered into thinking that it would be for your benefit. It would be just another way of tracking to serve personalised ads or just to sell thhe clickstream data to a third party for profit.

[craigj2k12]

..or even just track users preferences and sire popularity, both of which are an invasion of privacy

[pip08456]

Surprising how many people don't actually realise how "helpful" these things are that ISP's con you into using.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Surprising how many people don't actually realise how "helpful" these things are that ISP's con you into using.

if people were technical minded enough to know what this fintering garbage means, they would be technically minded enough to not go with talktalk in the first place

i had a terribly oversubscribed talktalk package for a while, they wouldnt even acknowledge it, even when I asked them as a "new customer" using an alias, they told me their contention ratio was 50:1, which is fairly high, but not to the extent that the connection dropped when the line profile was set to 15db, and I even got them to set it higher, but it still dropped out at peak times, i think they were contending us at about 80:1 or 100:1 around about there.

anyway back to the filtering....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Surprising how many people don't actually realise how "helpful" these things are that ISP's con you into using.

Personaly i hope Vm NEVER do anything like this as its just one step away from a VM version of phorm

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Personaly i hope Vm NEVER do anything like this as its just one step away from a VM version of phorm

as I said in another thread, its another server for traffic to go through, and the more the un-merrier

[pjcoop]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Personaly i hope Vm NEVER do anything like this as its just one step away from a VM version of phorm

I'm sure it would be like TalkTalk's version in that it would be an 'Opt In' option.
I wouldn't go with TalkTalk's Broadband offering.
I have laptops, desktops, iPads, iPhones etc.. and a 12 year old daughter. I don't want to have to manage content filtering on all these devices. I like the idea of it being managed from the ISP.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by pjcoop

I'm sure it would be like TalkTalk's version in that it would be an 'Opt In' option.
I wouldn't go with TalkTalk's Broadband offering.
I have laptops, desktops, iPads, iPhones etc.. and a 12 year old daughter. I don't want to have to manage content filtering on all these devices. I like the idea of it being managed from the ISP.

More fool you, Google K9.

[_wtf_]

If content filtering is worrying you take a look at how much a lot you can do with the router.

See if you have a page like this

http://www.polarcloud.com/v/screst.htm

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by pip08456

More fool you, Google K9.

as he said, he wouldnt want to configure on every device. but there are a lot better alternatives, like opendns, or even setting up a proxy. DDWRT and Tomato have good filtering options, and are a lot better than using an ISP based filter

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by pjcoop

I'm sure it would be like TalkTalk's version in that it would be an 'Opt In' option.
I wouldn't go with TalkTalk's Broadband offering.
I have laptops, desktops, iPads, iPhones etc.. and a 12 year old daughter. I don't want to have to manage content filtering on all these devices. I like the idea of it being managed from the ISP.

I set it up once on my linksys router running tomato and have not had to touch it since.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I set it up once on my linksys router running tomato and have not had to touch it since.

Set up what?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by craigj2k11

..or even just track users preferences and sire popularity, both of which are an invasion of privacy

No they aren't, and are being done on an aggregated basis. No individual data is being stored on individual subscribers.

[Skie]

easydns lets you do something similar without the hassle of all your traffic going via a bottleneck.