help, need proof

[craigj2k12]

the dedicated lines the big red internet can be any speed up to 200mb or something like that cant they

its a big red price as well!

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by craigj2k11

the dedicated lines the big red internet can be any speed up to 200mb or something like that cant they

its a big red price as well!

They can pay the lesser charges and have more comeback it is worth it in the long run.

[pip08456]

I was not referring to a leased line which is what you are talking about, you know that craig!

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I was not referring to a leased line which is what you are talking about, you know that craig!

DABHand said

Yeah but I have seen on occassion and on the official forums were they have been pushed for the dedicated 50 and 100mb lines. Which is wrong.

may i highlight the word

dedicated

yep, thats what he said

[pip08456]

That's DABhand for you, comes out with a loty of uncorroberated "info", doesn't provided a link to his scource and expects you to believe him.

Your choice craig.

[DABhand]

Ahh pip, im sorry I didn't record every thread I visited on the official forums ready for archival and retrieval use.

But I have seen it as well as others.

If I remembered the thread title etc of course I could search for it, but since these threads were a bit common 5months+ ago, and I think a few recently. They are there.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by pip08456

They can't be as they don't exist as business services as yet.

Most homeworkers are in effect self-employed therefore conducting a business. Good business practice would dictate that if you were relying on an internet connection to conduct it you would have a back up even if it were only a 3G dongle.

Had the OP had that then there would not be an issue.

I agree on having a backup, but I dont see why it needs to be specifically forbidden. Working from home will often coincide with home use so eg. one might want a 50mbit connection with the 5mbit upload for their kids which incidently isnt on the business package line up but also use it for homeworking, as long as the customer understands there is no SLA then it should be fine to both parties. To be fair to VM tho I have heard no stories of them hunting people down so it does seem the clause is there to counter claims for downtime.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I agree on having a backup, but I dont see why it needs to be specifically forbidden. Working from home will often coincide with home use so eg. one might want a 50mbit connection with the 5mbit upload for their kids which incidently isnt on the business package line up but also use it for homeworking, as long as the customer understands there is no SLA then it should be fine to both parties. To be fair to VM tho I have heard no stories of them hunting people down so it does seem the clause is there to counter claims for downtime.

You did read my post on the preceding page I take it, homeworking is not specifically banned and is allowed as long as it is not for running a business and not your primary workplace.

Any losses incurred by virtue of a fault are your responsibility though as it is a residential line and most sensible people would ensure that they had a fallback plan such as a PAYG USB mobile broadband dongle to ensure they can carry on working.

[Chrysalis]

then its not allowed as for many homeworkers it is their primary workplace. What happens if someone owns a business but accepts emails etc. on their home VM connection? not allowed?

and please stop posting disclaimers

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

then its not allowed as for many homeworkers it is their primary workplace. What happens if someone owns a business but accepts emails etc. on their home VM connection? not allowed?

and please stop posting disclaimers

If they lose connection for whatever period and are working from home then Virginmedia cannot be held responsible for any losses incurred, nothing stopping you from working from home but the are those restrictions with regards a residential account.

I have seen vans with a Virginmedia email address on them which is amusing because if they went to another ISP it would no longer work.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

then its not allowed as for many homeworkers it is their primary workplace. What happens if someone owns a business but accepts emails etc. on their home VM connection? not allowed?

and please stop posting disclaimers

By homeworking it means maybe a couple of times a week not everyday.

Having your own business and running it using a VM connection rather than a business connection is what the T&Cs refer too.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Masque

If they lose connection for whatever period and are working from home then Virginmedia cannot be held responsible for any losses incurred, nothing stopping you from working from home but the are those restrictions with regards a residential account.

I have seen vans with a Virginmedia email address on them which is amusing because if they went to another ISP it would no longer work.

Why did you post a disclaimer when I politely asked you not to, its as if you posting here in an official manner. Or you know you been watched over.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Why did you post a disclaimer when I politely asked you not to, its as if you posting here in an official manner. Or you know you been watched over.

Which disclaimer is that.

[Nopanic]

VM aren't going to do anything to people home working, unless they expect more from VM because of it ..

I work from home a lot, but I don't run a business through my VM connection.

I think common-sense comes into it here, VM use the T&C's to cover themselves, but in reality unless you are sending masses of emails, or running high usage servers, then no one will know or care..

[Nedkelly]

I think Nopanic is right there are lots of people who work from home and use there bb at home to do so .I know i do .Its when people come out and say i am loosing buissness because the network is down and i say not aware of any buissness modems on this node