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Old 05-05-2011, 21:32   #1
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How cable internet works

Interesting article from Ars Technica. It's a bit geeky in places but still an interesting read.

Meet DOCSIS, Part 1: the unsung hero of high-speed cable Internet access

Meet DOCSIS, Part 2: the jump from 2.0 to 3.0
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good info....no doubt ignition will find some errors in the article
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great artical
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Interesting article from Ars Technica. It's a bit geeky in places but still an interesting read.

Meet DOCSIS, Part 1: the unsung hero of high-speed cable Internet access
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An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

Hi,

Just thought I'd post this article about DOCSIS I found on Ars Technica. It's not all that technical (so even I could understand it) and it may be of interest to those who want to learn a bit more about DOCSIS, and how it works (without going into great detail).

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...net-access.ars

It's aimed towards an American audience, but I assume the same system is used here on the Vigin Media Cable Network. (If any details differ, hopefully someone can point them out).

I'll post the link to part 2, when it comes out.
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Re: An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

thanks, I wonder if VM have this enabled on docsis2 channels.

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And there's a completely new way for multiple modems to share the upstream bandwidth: S-CDMA (Synchronous Code Division Multiple Access). S-CDMA allows multiple cable modems to transmit at the same time, and it’s also more resistant to the noise that is present on channels below 20MHz. Let's look at both the bits-per-symbol and S-CDMA issues in more detail.
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Re: An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

VM use ATDMA

"Advanced Time Division Multiplex Access (ATDMA) and Synchronous Code Division Multiple Access (SCDMA). CableLabs has mandated that, for a cable product to be fully DOCSIS 2.0 compliant, it must support both competing protocols. There have been several discussions about migration to DOCSIS 2.0 and about which protocol (ATDMA or SCDMA) is the best fit for any one particular business model. Based on recent surveys, some providers are still very unsure about the migration to DOCSIS 2.0."

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Re: An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

already being discussed

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/26...net-works.html
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wow only a day apart, I await the merge
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Don't worry, it'll gives the mods something to do.
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Re: An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

seems SCDMA is not used on VM according to this post.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35231921-post51.html

continuing that discussion here as this topic is relevant to it.
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seems SCDMA is not used on VM according to this post.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35231921-post51.html

continuing that discussion here as this topic is relevant to it.
Actually Chrys it was mentioned in post 3 here, but I assumed you didn't want to discuss it.
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Re: An introduction to DOCSIS (in 2 parts)

@Igni if he comes here

I didn't say SCDMA uses 128QAM all the time, I said it can use it. But that is not the only plus, I listed the others in the "telfordmania" thread.
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@Igni if he comes here

I didn't say SCDMA uses 128QAM all the time, I said it can use it. But that is not the only plus, I listed the others in the "telfordmania" thread.
Yeh, keep going on about the plus side and forget about the negative side (as usual).

As Igni posted.

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SCDMA is less efficient than ATDMA. 128QAM requires an insane upstream SNR, 64QAM is a challenge for operators to push to let alone another 3dB to cater to 128QAM and after overheads it doesn't actually provide anything more than 64QAM ATDMA.

SCDMA does indeed have a purpose, it is more resilient in the presence of burst noise that ATDMA, however horses for courses. If it were so evidently superior everyone would be doing it. They aren't.
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