Monarchy or Republic?

[Pierre]

Monarchy every time, I'm proud of our heritage.

Does that mean our monarchy can't be reformed? Of course not.

It needs to be thinned out. The civil list needs to be cut to just a handful of immediate royals. Direct heirs and spouses only for example.

I think William will do much to modernise them. I think Charles should abdicate his right and go off and disappear up his own backside.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Actually William was Norman and they were originally Vikings.The whole world can be as snooty as it likes about it's origins but we are all pretty much mongrels and can trace our ancestry all the way back to Africa.

I care if only for the fact I can do without the damned upheaval that would result if we changed the status quo.Change for change sakes is pointless.

been busy but I happliy stand corrected. I did actually know the history of Normandy buts its normally acceptable to dislike the French lol

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think Charles should abdicate his right and go off and disappear up his own backside.

If his mother lives very much longer, Charles might just be a doddery old geezer himself by the time he accedes to the throne ... we may just end up with William as Prince Regent if his dad can't cope.

Charles should never be King cuz he married a divorcee same as his great uncle . I certainly do not want a Queen Consort Camilla

[Uncle Peter]

Now to be fair to the aristocracy back in the 11th Century it wasn't all bad, in fact they would have done CAMRA proud. An English translation (oh the irony) extract from the domesday summary for Chester:

"A man or woman caught giving false measure in the city paid a fine of 4s. Similarly, the brewer of bad beer was either put in the ducking stool or gave 4s to the reeves"

Originally Posted by Zing

Charles should never be King cuz he married a divorcee same as his great uncle . I certainly do not want a Queen Consort Camilla

I think with Wallis Simpson, the fact she was a divorcee and a Yank is what did for her.

With some of the shenanigans his distant ancestors got up to, Charles is actually a fairly level-headed, near-normal person. There is next to zero chance of him not being king. I tend to agree about Camilla; I would prefer her not to be Queen, but the fact is, a king's wife is a queen. Good PR means she's unlikely ever to be called that officially, but queen she will be.

[AntiSilence]

I'm not either against, or for.

At the end of the day, I was born here by chance. And while I'm proud to have been born here, it's not up to me to decide whether we should or shouldn't have a monarchy. It's the way it's always been. I just live here.

I'm happy for them both, but as I don't personally know them, I won't be celebrating, just carrying on with my life, as will they.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by AntiSilence

I'm not either against, or for.

At the end of the day, I was born here by chance. And while I'm proud to have been born here, it's not up to me to decide whether we should or shouldn't have a monarchy. It's the way it's always been. I just live here.

I'm happy for them both, but as I don't personally know them, I won't be celebrating, just carrying on with my life, as will they.

That's a pretty fatalistic way of looking at things.

Everybody on the planet are where they are by chance, our ancestors where here by chance and yet they shaped their traditions and way of life, why wouldn't you?

[beeman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think Charles should abdicate his right and go off and disappear up his own backside.

That might bee difficalt to-do if you want William to bee king, typically abdication means refusing your right to the throne. Wills right to the throne comes directly from Charles's right. So without constitutional changes (to ALL Commonwealth country's not just UK) Charles abdicating would lead to king Andrew

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by beeman

That might bee difficalt to-do if you want William to bee king, typically abdication means refusing your right to the throne. Wills right to the throne comes directly from Charles's right. So without constitutional changes (to ALL Commonwealth country's not just UK) Charles abdicating would lead to king Andrew

Yikes, but at least all major golf championships will be national holidays

Originally Posted by beeman

That might bee difficalt to-do if you want William to bee king, typically abdication means refusing your right to the throne. Wills right to the throne comes directly from Charles's right. So without constitutional changes (to ALL Commonwealth country's not just UK) Charles abdicating would lead to king Andrew

Point of order..

If charles abdicates then William can still be king and most likely would .Charles can abdicate the throne in favour of his oldest son (william).The only other occasion of voluntary abdication in the entire royal history was of Edward VIII who had to pass the throne to his brother simply because he had no heirs

so no there wont be any golfing holidays

[NO ONE]

dot care ether way but dot want a Presadient Camron simple

[Ignitionnet]

Given no-one raised the possibility it's not an issue.

The monarchy can and should stay.

That said I would also quite like to see a directly elected head of government rather than a Prime Minister. Obviously it couldn't be a president.

[AntiSilence]

Originally Posted by Pierre

That's a pretty fatalistic way of looking at things.

Everybody on the planet are where they are by chance, our ancestors where here by chance and yet they shaped their traditions and way of life, why wouldn't you?

Of course it's shaped my way of life. It couldn't not. But that doesn't mean that I should celebrate the wedding of people I don't personally know. Whoever they are.

[Kymmy]

With the usual "I hate the monarchy" brigade I thought the poll results would be very different and not the current 60%/24%/16% split in favor of the Monarchy..