TiVo General TiVo Discussion Part 2 - Page 187

passingbat · 25-04-2011, 15:54

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Other than reminders, I can't think of one other thing that the V+ did better than Tivo

Subjective. Some say it's better; some say it's not.

Global padding may be nice but its not absolutely required.

Exactly

For me, the only real thing is the way V+ handled padding (PQ is probably a Cisco box issue).

V+ dropped padding when two shows on different channels recorded back to back on the same tuner.

Tivo doesn't do that. it records the end padding on the highest priority show and you miss the first part of the lower priority show following.

I used to set a standard 5 minutes before and after on V+ which covered pretty much all over runs. I could do this because V+ would drop padding for the scenario described above.

With Tivo, I would loose 5 minutes of the second show. Given this situation, I can see why Tivo doesn't have a global setting for padding, as you really need to set pading depending on what other shows are being recorded around the same time and which tuners will be available.

If Tivo handled padding like the V+, then a global padding option, like that on the V+ could be applied with no resulting problems.

Tod · 25-04-2011, 15:55

Would be pretty dull if everyone said "yeah yeah you're right"

HDFootyMan · 25-04-2011, 16:07

Just had my 1st reboot!

I was adding 1080i to the list of supported video formats, suddenly I was watching 0i because the box rebooted.

But, it works well - when I switch to a HD channel, the TV switches to 1080i, and when I switch to a SD channel, the TV switches to 720p.

carlwaring · 25-04-2011, 16:10

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Originally Posted by denphone

This forum would not be the same without you.

You do know that was sarcasm, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat

For me, the only real thing is the way V+ handled padding (PQ is probably a Cisco box issue).

V+ dropped padding when two shows on different channels recorded back to back on the same tuner.

Tivo doesn't do that. it records the end padding on the highest priority show and you miss the first part of the lower priority show following.

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen

passingbat · 25-04-2011, 16:13

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

Just had my 1st reboot!

I was adding 1080i to the list of supported video formats, suddenly I was watching 0i because the box rebooted.

But, it works well - when I switch to a HD channel, the TV switches to 1080i, and when I switch to a SD channel, the TV switches to 720p.

What is the native resolution of your TV?

denphone · 25-04-2011, 16:14

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

You do know that was sarcasm, right?

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen

As a uneducated forum member l am not sure what you mean by sarcasm.

carlwaring · 25-04-2011, 16:16

Not fair. You didn't add a smiley. Now I don't know if you're serious or not

passingbat · 25-04-2011, 16:17

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen

If Tivo handled padding the way V+ did, it would never happen.

'Never' works better for me than 'unlikely'

denphone · 25-04-2011, 16:19

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Not fair. You didn't add a smiley. Now I don't know if you're serious or not

l never add a smiley but did you know that some forum members and those closest to me call me Victor after a famous tv character.

devilincarnate · 25-04-2011, 16:20

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Originally Posted by denphone

As a uneducated forum member l am not sure what you mean by sarcasm.

Try this?

**Hugh** · 25-04-2011, 16:21

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Originally Posted by denphone

l never add a smiley but did you know that some forum members and those closest to me call me Victor after a famous tv character.

Frankenstein?

denphone · 25-04-2011, 16:21

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Try this?

As sherlock said once that l am most grateful for this information.

HDFootyMan · 25-04-2011, 16:22

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Originally Posted by passingbat

What is the native resolution of your TV?

1080p, Full HD panel.

I can see the '720p vs 1080i' can of worms being opened up here.

passingbat · 25-04-2011, 16:30

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

1080p, Full HD panel.

So what I don't understand is why, for SD, you get Tivo to upscale from 576 to 720 and then get your TV to upscale it again from 720 to 1080?

Every time you upscale, you lose picture quality, so doing just one upscale operation from 576 to 1080 in Tivo should be better.

If you could get Tivo to output 576 for SD, then your TV could upscale from 576 to 1080 and you would only be using one upscaling process.

Then it would come down to which is the best upscaler; your TV or Tivo.

Using an extra upscaling operation doesn't make sense to me, and theoretically should produce worse results.

Lew · 25-04-2011, 16:42

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Originally Posted by passingbat

If you could get Tivo to output 576 for SD, then your TV could upscale from 576 to 1080 and you would only be using one upscaling process.

I would have thought that the menus would look pretty rubbish at 576i/576p though.