Should Virgin Media Throttle p2p traffic? - Page 2

Sirius · 18-04-2011, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Erm, all of those (except two posters) in the first two pages were on Xbox, not PCs...

btw, what you think and what is reality may differ - you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.....

Facts don't always fit in with a persons agenda all of the time

Kymmy · 18-04-2011, 19:08

Can I remind members that this is a family friendly forum which means as well as watching your language within a post we expect all links to abide by the same rules.

craigj2k12 · 18-04-2011, 19:29

I think that if virgin targetted torrents and newsgroups only, it would make the service a LOT better for gaming, in terms of ping, as the network load would be reduced

Ignitionnet · 18-04-2011, 19:53

That is what they target, doesn't mean it's all that gets hit of course as they also shape unidentified traffic which is a common configuration.

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Originally Posted by Bonglet

End of net neutrality in uk will mean it goes bad for everyone unless you pay said isp for more bandwith

Perish the thought of paying more for a higher quality service.

At the moment operators are only shaping on the customer side, no reason to think this will change any time soon due to how cheap external bandwidth is in the UK, we've a well developed internet exchange with LINX and other alternate ones along with relatively low cost links to AmsIX, DecIX, ParIX, etc.

craigj2k12 · 18-04-2011, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

That is what they target, doesn't mean it's all that gets hit of course as they also shape unidentified traffic which is a common configuration.

i understand they are working on sorting out xbox live at the moment, but why dont they just allow unidentified traffic as normal? they are blocking gaming, vpn, and even their own online backup until the update the other day

Ignitionnet · 18-04-2011, 19:56

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

i understand they are working on sorting out xbox live at the moment, but why dont they just allow unidentified traffic as normal? they are blocking gaming, vpn, and even their own online backup until the update the other day

Because so much P2P hides. Leaving unidentified stuff alone makes it even more worthless than it is now as every arsewipe and their dog can tick a couple of boxes on the P2P client.

Blame P2P developers who insist on obfuscating their protocols to try and get around ISP shaping. You end up with what we have now, positively identified protocols being white listed rather than P2P being black listed.

Marcus125 · 18-04-2011, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Because so much P2P hides. Leaving unidentified stuff alone makes it even more worthless than it is now as every arsewipe and their dog can tick a couple of boxes on the P2P client.

Blame P2P developers who insist on obfuscating their protocols to try and get around ISP shaping. You end up with what we have now, positively identified protocols being white listed rather than P2P being black listed.

GOD DAM!! THEM People who pay for 100Mb and actually expect to have access to 100Mb for more than 4 hours a day!!!!!!!!!!

Ignitionnet · 18-04-2011, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

GOD DAM!! THEM People who pay for 100Mb and actually expect to have access to 100Mb for more than 4 hours a day!!!!!!!!!!

When you are actually paying for 100Mb instead of less than the price of a decent meal for 1 with wine per month for a best effort service that supplies up to 100Mb subject to FUP, AUP, etc, please do get back to me on complaints of the supplier shaping a few protocols for a few hours per day.

**Hugh** · 18-04-2011, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

When you are actually paying for 100Mb instead of less than the price of a decent meal for 1 with wine per month for a best effort service that supplies up to 100Mb subject to FUP, AUP, etc, please do get back to me on complaints of the supplier shaping a few protocols for a few hours per day.

A lot less.....

Marcus125 · 18-04-2011, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

When you are actually paying for 100Mb instead of less than the price of a decent meal for 1 with wine per month for a best effort service that supplies up to 100Mb subject to FUP, AUP, etc, please do get back to me on complaints of the supplier shaping a few protocols for a few hours per day.

What the hell you on about?

By the way our last meal was this weekend at a place called Da vincis in Ironbridge and the wine was Â£57 on its own, But the wine was worth it so was the service and meal.

VM doesnt give what the say. Da vincis does.

**Hugh** · 18-04-2011, 20:44

I would have expected some glasses for that price....

Marcus125 · 18-04-2011, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I would have expected some glasses for that price....

You getting fed up of them plastic beaker eh?

**Hugh** · 18-04-2011, 20:49

Those, dear boy, those ("them" is so non-u).

|Kippa| · 18-04-2011, 20:51

I am glad that ftp and sftp has been left alone out of the application shaping. I find I can ftp to my server fine at full speed all the time at any time of the day. This is very good for people with websites and servers. Direct links to my ovh server have always been good. Application shaping might not be perfect but it isn't all bad.

Marcus125 · 18-04-2011, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

When you are actually paying for 100Mb instead of less than the price of a decent meal for 1 with wine per month for a best effort service that supplies up to 100Mb subject to FUP, AUP, etc, please do get back to me on complaints of the supplier shaping a few protocols for a few hours per day.

ALSO-
Do you really think its fair the consumer pays because you under price your products? (you being VM which you obviously arent but you get my drift)

Or are you saying Virginmedia is a budget brand at a budget price? I DOUBT THEY WOULD AGREE.