125M : Vmng300

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Nopanic

Its VMs cabling, VMs equipment and VM's service. You pay for a particular part of it and if VM decide to use the SH in that way (which I don't think is a good idea by the way) then the only thing you can really do, is leave.

I hope they don't.

in that case I will leave then. simple

onlyh problem is that my stupid adsl line maxes out at 4meg and bt infinity isnt available until 2012. bummer

[Peter_]

the would be little point in trying to use customers own routers to supply hotspots because it would never work as most customers live on housing estates where wifi hotspots would be a pointless exercise.

It is more likely to be based around the cabinets.

[craigj2k12]

exactly. someone talking some sense, well done masque!

the latest press release I heard was that VM arent bothering with their public wifi

[weesteev]

Wireless access points will be branched through existing amplifier points and be assigned dedicated network capacity at the headend, Wireless services will not have an impact on residential services. This system has operated in the US for a few years now with zero customer impact (read Cablevision)

I dont hear you complain that 40% of UK mobile calls are carried over Virgin Media's network, surely thats no different?

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

exactly. someone talking some sense, well done masque!

the latest press release I heard was that VM arent bothering with their public wifi

That press release either inst correct or isn't from VM directly. If its a VM press release it will be on the press office site at vm.com

[jb66]

Imagine a dlink superhub! Sigh

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by jb66

Imagine a dlink superhub! Sigh

where did that idea come from lol

[jb66]

virgin like two manufactures so they can haggle price of units. Also a samsung TiVo hmmmm

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Masque

Because as I have already said before only one device is being manufactured now and that is the Superhub, the VMNG300 was designed and manfactured specifically for Virginmedia which has now come to an end, which means the are virtually none left anywhere, you are now looking for hens teeth.

Think before you type

Its only stopped manufacturing because VM stopped the orders for new stock. So think about what you saying.

You trying to say the vmng300 cannot be supplied alongside the superhub because it isnt made anymore, yet the reason for that is VM told the manufacturer they wanted no more. So obviously if VM were to order more then it would be manufactured again or at least a substitute model would be. A hardware vendor isnt going to suddenly tell a major isp they not going to make them anymore.

There is a reason but that isnt the reason so look elsewhere

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Think before you type

Its only stopped manufacturing because VM stopped the orders for new stock. So think about what you saying.

You trying to say the vmng300 cannot be supplied alongside the superhub because it isnt made anymore, yet the reason for that is VM told the manufacturer they wanted no more. So obviously if VM were to order more then it would be manufactured again or at least a substitute model would be. A hardware vendor isnt going to suddenly tell a major isp they not going to make them anymore.

There is a reason but that isnt the reason so look elsewhere

It is not an off the shelf modem as it was built for Virginmedia and is no longer manufactured hence we now have the Superhub.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Masque

It is not an off the shelf modem as it was built for Virginmedia and is no longer manufactured hence we now have the Superhub.

you made the same mistake again. or maybe its not a mistake you trying to put the blame on the vmng300 vendor saying it was their choice to kill it, it was VM's choice.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

you made the same mistake again. or maybe its not a mistake you trying to put the blame on the vmng300 vendor saying it was their choice to kill it, it was VM's choice.

Of course it was a corporate decision to get the next modem from a different manufacturer as they wanted combined modem/routers from a known wireless manufacturer.

The VMNG300 was no longer required so they ran down existing stock and rolled out the Superhub which is here to stay as the VMNG300 is not suitable for the higher tiers above 50Mb which is why they cannot be used as per Pips experience.

The firmware will iron out any issues people are having.

Also Virginmedia tend not to run 2 different piece of kit on their tiers and any engineers replacing modems will now only fit hubs as they carry nothing else.

I expect that we will soon start sending out hubs instead of modems for replacements over the phone as well.

I would not hold your breath over any thoughts of a reprise of the VMNG300 as the will be no requirement for such a modem once the Superhub can be used as a modem.

[Skie]

Erm, the VMNG300 runs 100meg fine (and VM were touting it as able to handle 200meg when it was introduced). As for the modem itself, all the internals are off the shelf and are probably as common as muck and used in other still in production devices. The only parts unique to VM are the case and firmware. Both cheap things to replicate. But its unlikely, from a business standpoint, that they will order any more. Its a shame nobody has done a tear-down of both the VMNG300 and the Superhub to see just what spec kit they have inside them. Might settle some arguments about cheapness :p

I do hope modem mode will solve everyones problems. The product itself makes sense, its just that it was released far too early and is really harming Virgins reputation. I'll be willing to do some comparisons when it does come out as long as both my devices stay active on VM's systems.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Skie

Erm, the VMNG300 runs 100meg fine (and VM were touting it as able to handle 200meg when it was introduced).

Virginmedia do not want 100Mb to use anything other than the Superhub and if you are running a VMNG300 then sooner or later it will fail due to it not channel bonding in the same way as the Superhub, or it just develops a fault at which point they will replace it with a Superhub as the is no other option available.

[Skie]

We know VM want everyone on the SH, warts and all, but you said "the VMNG300 is not suitable for the higher tiers above 50Mb".

When (if?) VM change how many channels 100meg uses then VMNG300's on it will need replacing (or will they just bond to the 4 and ignore the others?) and VM will send out a superhub. Hopefully by that time the SH will be in a state where it actually works for everyone.

[plgibson]

Just arrived can any one tell me when the upgrde to allow the sh to run i modem only will be available
Thanks