125M : Vmng300

[craigj2k12]

if you can afford the 100meg service, you generally shouldnt have a problem buying a new network card?

[capt coax]

Originally Posted by craigj2k11

if you can afford the 100meg service, you generally shouldnt have a problem buying a new network card?

correct

but how many people know what there internal network cards throuput is...
i know people are getting a little more savvy now...but not everyone understands that ???

just a thought awaiting for the sun to pop its head out?

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Nopanic

Lets be honest dude, you were going to hate it no matter what the out come ..

If you have turned off all the floor crap and still get those speeds, maybe you have power level issues ?

You're not getting slow speeds because of the Hub ... its perfect .. like me

Let's be honest Nopanic. I would've loved to be proved wrong. The only reason I went ahead is that I have been criticizing it without having having ever used it which seemed rater bigoted to me.

Now I have used it and it has confirmed my past comments about it.

I have no power level issues whatsoever, I know what they should be.

All the floor crap as you call it is turned off.

The TBB monitor does not support congestion issues.

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So it now boils down to 2 issues.

Either the 100Mb service is a pile of crap, or the plooperhub is. Personnally I think the latter.

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Which is one of the reasons 100Mbit is supposed to be SuperHub only - none of the standalone routers VM have supplied are designed to deal with it.

Which no-one has denied. You seem to ignore those who have spent good money for kit to work with both their own network and the service supplied by VM via a modem.

When VM introduced the VMNG300 they proudly touted the fact it was future proof for up to 200Mb speeds.

[DigitalShadow]

What I find crazy about this whole thing is the lack of choice, I bought a superb router which I bought in the knowledge it could handle 200mbit with ease (and support torrenting with many open connections and peers), I made an investment in some hardware that virgin have decided I don't need (if i want faster than 50mbit).

If you are looking at the 100/10 service you are most likely a technical user and therefore would have specific network requirements that the superhub might interfere with. Why couldn't they have an option for a modem only service! I've never used the supplied routers that VM have given, and would rather keep it that way.

My VMNG300 has been rock solid for over a year! I've rebooted the modem 4 times in nearly 15 months! It seems that some heavy users and torrentists have had issues with the superhub.

[Chrysalis]

Hence my opinion someone has made a balls up on policy.

The superhub probably should have been gradual and on new signups only. It also probably should have been optional only with always the option for a standalone modem.

I have been trying to work out for weeks why VM have been so agressive and keen in releasing the superhub to as many existing customers as possible. Because in my view the 30mbit product launch was all about the superhub, it was a way to get it out to the customer base.

Initially I thought was all about tech support as alex brown kept going on about it, that may be part of it, but ultimately VM wont be saving much money on that without firing staff which hasnt happened, so I think the end game is the public wifi stuff and they need the superhubs out so they have as many hotspots as possible. If I am wrong and none of these are reasons then it looks like a near 100% balls up as all they achieving so far is turning previously happy customers unhappy.

I am sure there is many people wondering why the VMNG300 and superhub could not be stocked alongside each other and customers given a choice.

[craigj2k12]

what is the capability of coax cable?

i mean, lets say, in a couple of years, i have a 200mbit line, on the superhub. then vm bring out there public wifi, using the superhubs. what speed will the public wifi be? 10mb? 30? that will use up bandwidth, and more noticably raise ping rates

if virgin media decide to use my cabling, and my service to broadcast their public wifi, I will be straight out, its bad enough how they contend us from the UBR, but to have public access to my connection is an outrage

However, im still of the impression that it wont happen that way, vm said they were doing public wifi, then they decided against it. if they do decide to do it, it will probably be from the street cabinets

[jb66]

I would give up some of my bandwidth to use wifi hotspots

[craigj2k12]

i wouldnt,

its daylight robbery

[jb66]

Only if you were maxing out your connection. Maybe they will give you 30meg plus 2meg reserved for wifi. That wouldn't be theft

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by jb66

Only if you were maxing out your connection. Maybe they will give you 30meg plus 2meg reserved for wifi. That wouldn't be theft

it would be if you were on a 200mb connection lol

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by DigitalShadow

What I find crazy about this whole thing is the lack of choice, I bought a superb router which I bought in the knowledge it could handle 200mbit with ease (and support torrenting with many open connections and peers), I made an investment in some hardware that virgin have decided I don't need (if i want faster than 50mbit).

If you are looking at the 100/10 service you are most likely a technical user and therefore would have specific network requirements that the superhub might interfere with. Why couldn't they have an option for a modem only service! I've never used the supplied routers that VM have given, and would rather keep it that way.

My VMNG300 has been rock solid for over a year! I've rebooted the modem 4 times in nearly 15 months! It seems that some heavy users and torrentists have had issues with the superhub.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Although I found the DIR-615 adequate for my needs with DD-WRT I did invest in my own router so as to be "future proof" only to find VM had changed the goalposts.

[Nopanic]

Originally Posted by craigj2k11

if virgin media decide to use my cabling, and my service to broadcast their public wifi, I will be straight out, its bad enough how they contend us from the UBR, but to have public access to my connection is an outrage

Its VMs cabling, VMs equipment and VM's service. You pay for a particular part of it and if VM decide to use the SH in that way (which I don't think is a good idea by the way) then the only thing you can really do, is leave.

I hope they don't.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I am sure there is many people wondering why the VMNG300 and superhub could not be stocked alongside each other and customers given a choice.

Because as I have already said before only one device is being manufactured now and that is the Superhub, the VMNG300 was designed and manfactured specifically for Virginmedia which has now come to an end, which means the are virtually none left anywhere, you are now looking for hens teeth.

[Nopanic]

VM don't like having one supplier though, so watch this space ..

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Nopanic

VM don't like having one supplier though, so watch this space ..

I know.

But it is not the Holy Grail as above.