21-03-2011, 09:43
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#4801
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Inactive
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by mersey70
Forgive my ignorance but what is the sales brief, do you mean the phone call?
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When being sold by sales/contact with customers once launched.
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
Any ideas what the BBC Red button would be available? are we talking summer time?
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Anytime between now and August. No firm date announced just yet.
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Originally Posted by Tod
Red button is an essential part of UK digital broadcasting, especially BBC and Sky channels. The service is incomplete without it.
I can't say I have seen the sales blurb with it saying there is no red button support?
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Phase 1 was BBCi Player, full Red Button is Phase 2.
BBCi Player launched 2 weeks ago.
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21-03-2011, 09:45
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#4802
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Re: TiVo
It's all down to personal requirements. For me, the red button stuff is of no interest. Tivo has many more features to outweight the lack of the red button facility - IMO.
Others will need the red button facility and therefore Tivo won't be for them just yet. All down to what you want really. I am super happy with Tivo. Last night we were watching Ross Kemp's Extreme World which we had recorded earlier in the week from Sky 1 HD. 10 o clock came and all three recording lights came on to record a further three HD channels whilst us watching our HD recording. For me, that is more important, to have that facility to effectively record one extra channel than the V+ could.
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21-03-2011, 10:02
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#4803
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Location: Sutton Coldfiled
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by BenJSmyth
It's all down to personal requirements. For me, the red button stuff is of no interest. Tivo has many more features to outweight the lack of the red button facility - IMO.
Others will need the red button facility and therefore Tivo won't be for them just yet. All down to what you want really. I am super happy with Tivo. Last night we were watching Ross Kemp's Extreme World which we had recorded earlier in the week from Sky 1 HD. 10 o clock came and all three recording lights came on to record a further three HD channels whilst us watching our HD recording. For me, that is more important, to have that facility to effectively record one extra channel than the V+ could.
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Yep I never use the red button mainly because it's so slow. Truth be known there could be no red button on my current box and I would be none the wiser.
If the red button services were quicker (maybe it will be on TiVo) then I might end up using it.
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21-03-2011, 10:23
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#4804
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Re: TiVo
It's up to the user whether it is a valuable service but 12 million people use the BBC Red Button every week so it is clearly very popular. I agree VM's current implementation of it is quite clunky but I found it very useful all the same, hopefully Tivo's version will be lightning fast. Sky's version is clunky too, I find the Freeview version the best but the features are of course limited.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...ust_servi.html
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21-03-2011, 10:26
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#4805
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
I don't agree with that. If you want the red button, you wait for it to launch on TiVo - simples really 
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Good old DF, singing the company song as usual!
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21-03-2011, 10:26
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#4806
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Re: TiVo
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?
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21-03-2011, 10:30
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#4807
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Virgin Media Staff
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Location: Manchester
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?
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Not everyone has an aerial connected to their TV
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21-03-2011, 10:30
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#4808
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?
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You would be right but the Freeview service is very, very limited regarding video streams. Just the one is available these days.
All the text services are available on Freeview as far as I know though.
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21-03-2011, 10:30
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#4809
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Re: TiVo
I'm not too bothered about Red Button. It's only really any use if your watching TV live and to be honest the wife and kids very rarely let me watch anything live.
I am looking forward to F1 in HD this year and not having to worry about HD space or random reboots.
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21-03-2011, 10:32
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#4810
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by fixerman
Good old DF, singing the company song as usual!
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Hi  Fixerman
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21-03-2011, 10:40
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#4811
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Re: TiVo
It's very much a personal choice , some may not be bothered about red button services , personally I an especially Premiership football which is one of the reasons I switched to Sky. I suppose VM could argue if you want red button service , stick with V+ until full red button services launch on TIVO.
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21-03-2011, 10:44
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#4812
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cf.addict
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: TiVo
May be an issue when Wimbledon comes round, if not fixed by then.
As a workaround, why do VM not carry the red button video streams as 'visible' channels in the EPG - as virtually all Freeview boxes do, and I recall NTL did some years ago before the existing red button was fully accessible from all boxes?
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21-03-2011, 11:21
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#4813
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil
If TiVo has never had red button, then VM should wait till it has to put it out. We may moan about delays, as I have just, but instead, a later release schedule should have been put out.
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Why wait to release with the red button?
If it's delayed, all of us have to wait for tivo. If it's released now, those of us not bothered about red button can get tivo now and those who want red button can stick with V+ until tivo gets red buttoned.
Red button users are unaffected timescale wise and non red button users get tivo funcionality earlier.
Maybe you want to deny us non red button users the pleasure of tivo early?
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21-03-2011, 13:09
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#4814
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cf.geek
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha
I'm not too bothered about Red Button. It's only really any use if your watching TV live and to be honest the wife and kids very rarely let me watch anything live.
I am looking forward to F1 in HD this year and not having to worry about HD space or random reboots.
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Just that you won't be able to watch the practise on the red button service with TIVO
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21-03-2011, 13:11
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#4815
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Re: TiVo
It is a major lacking in the service if there is no red button, you should all be united in pushing Virgin to impliment it.......otherwise you have yourselves to blame when they leave it 6 months because people are saying it does not matter...when it does!
It may not matter that it is not there at the moment for the launch, but if it is still not there in a months time, that is pretty poor in my opinion.
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